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Indeed, I was between those two. Judging from the reviews and user reports I concluded the PL25 had a bit better IQ at the larger apertures, especially when it comes to purple fringing which can be ugly in starry skies. It was also cheaper, lighter and smaller. An easy decision therefore
The 20/1.4 also has more SA, which gives smoother background bokeh but more glow around lights, flowers in sunlight etc.Indeed, I was between those two. Judging from the reviews and user reports I concluded the PL25 had a bit better IQ at the larger apertures, especially when it comes to purple fringing which can be ugly in starry skies. It was also cheaper, lighter and smaller. An easy decision therefore
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I have never had a problem as I don't base my opinions on internet reviews or forum opinions, rather I apply real world personal usage. I sold my PL25 after a couple of weeks ....no mythical glow no go. with a rattle, otherwise it seemed ato be a great lens.Indeed, I was between those two. Judging from the reviews and user reports I concluded the PL25 had a bit better IQ at the larger apertures, especially when it comes to purple fringing which can be ugly in starry skies. It was also cheaper, lighter and smaller. An easy decision therefore
Yea it's easy to find a situation where a any lens does not perform well but iis ignored about it being great in other situations
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Sadly I don’t have access to testing gear and returning it if it doesn’t work for me. So I’ve relied most of my purchases on several polls I’ve posted over the years, and I can say with certainty that people’s opinions have not disappointed.I have never had a problem as I don't base my opinions on internet reviews or forum opinions, rather I apply real world personal usage. I sold my PL25 after a couple of weeks ....no mythical glow no go. with a rattle, otherwise it seemed ato be a great lens.Indeed, I was between those two. Judging from the reviews and user reports I concluded the PL25 had a bit better IQ at the larger apertures, especially when it comes to purple fringing which can be ugly in starry skies. It was also cheaper, lighter and smaller. An easy decision therefore
Yea it's easy to find a situation where a any lens does not perform well but iis ignored about it being great in other situations
To me, forum opinions are 80% real world use and 20% personal bias, and I’m good with that. Maybe a bit more on the bias, but it’s ok. I understand.
At the end of the day, advise here has proven to me to be very solid.
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Sure but real advice is far and few between people like medisn and markusweld show results that they have taken, most just cut and paste internet stuff.
markusweld presented the positives of the G100 and medisn presented the shortcomings of the 20mm f1.4 ....... I bought both the products
the twitchers are a world of their own
markusweld presented the positives of the G100 and medisn presented the shortcomings of the 20mm f1.4 ....... I bought both the products
the twitchers are a world of their own
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I'm like you, no complaints with the recommendations from the forum, and I've never touched anything before buying XD all good so farSadly I don’t have access to testing gear and returning it if it doesn’t work for me. So I’ve relied most of my purchases on several polls I’ve posted over the years, and I can say with certainty that people’s opinions have not disappointed.I have never had a problem as I don't base my opinions on internet reviews or forum opinions, rather I apply real world personal usage. I sold my PL25 after a couple of weeks ....no mythical glow no go. with a rattle, otherwise it seemed ato be a great lens.Indeed, I was between those two. Judging from the reviews and user reports I concluded the PL25 had a bit better IQ at the larger apertures, especially when it comes to purple fringing which can be ugly in starry skies. It was also cheaper, lighter and smaller. An easy decision therefore
Yea it's easy to find a situation where a any lens does not perform well but iis ignored about it being great in other situations
To me, forum opinions are 80% real world use and 20% personal bias, and I’m good with that. Maybe a bit more on the bias, but it’s ok. I understand.
At the end of the day, advise here has proven to me to be very solid.
When I bought the 25mm ii, the galleries for the mark i convinced me, along with forum posts.
Its my only prime right now, I only really want to add a manual f/0.95 (the 60mm preferably), but thats a want, my needs are met with my two zooms and the 25mm tbh.
ChrisPCrunch
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I have the Panasonic 25mm F1.7
I got it because it was super cheap brand new. I do use it a lot. It is light weight, comes with a lens hood, focuses fast and the fast aperture is great for indoors. However, the issues with regards to the focus shift are real. In real use, most of the time I don't notice it, but it can be noticed in some photos and it has messed up a few shots. It seems to be most noticeable in mid focus distances when stopped down a bit (around F4 seems worst). If you use it only wide open or really stopped down it won't be an issue. There is a work around with Panasonic cameras apparently where you use constant preview in manual mode so that it focuses while stopped down, but I have an Olympus.
If I had to buy a lens now, I think I would look for a used Olympus 25 f1.8 instead as the focus is more reliable and it is smaller/more compact. Plus I have an Olympus camera.
Chris
I got it because it was super cheap brand new. I do use it a lot. It is light weight, comes with a lens hood, focuses fast and the fast aperture is great for indoors. However, the issues with regards to the focus shift are real. In real use, most of the time I don't notice it, but it can be noticed in some photos and it has messed up a few shots. It seems to be most noticeable in mid focus distances when stopped down a bit (around F4 seems worst). If you use it only wide open or really stopped down it won't be an issue. There is a work around with Panasonic cameras apparently where you use constant preview in manual mode so that it focuses while stopped down, but I have an Olympus.
If I had to buy a lens now, I think I would look for a used Olympus 25 f1.8 instead as the focus is more reliable and it is smaller/more compact. Plus I have an Olympus camera.
Chris
I am a late comer to the party but I am in agreement. Just get what 'works' all the time. I don't mind the Panasonic but I don't / didn't want reliable 'most of the time' and for a relatively few bucks more, get what is reliable 'all the time'
Isola Verde
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Well, just got it in my hands yesterday, as I have to go through the whole ordeal or freight forwarders. On the very positive side, is in amazing shape. Really looks brand new to me. My wife just invited me to a local farmer’s market on Sunday, so I will have a chance to use it and report back.
HornOUBet
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Don't listen to these people..... pictures of brick a wall at all apertures with 100% crops of centers and all 4 corners.
Isola Verde
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Sounds good to me!
If doing requests, some photos of edibles, rather than craft works etc, would be particularly appreciated?
Peter
Just a few from the International Chorrera Fair:
Ah, food. I was tasked with some food. Not much available, but I do love some BBQ
Ponies!!! who doesn't love ponies?
The wife, always posing for me
More food!!!
And more BBQ... Not for vegans, sorry.
Although we also have some vegetables and fruits
And plants. I had to haul my fair share of plants back to the car, as expected.
And finally, a shaved ice vendor.
Thanks for watching. Hope you like the 25mm f:1.4. I do love it myself. Really like the focal length, and while I was tempted to jump to my 12-40mm, as my 12-60mm hasn't arrived yet, I didn't yield and kept shooting with the 25mm. It was a great experience which I'm hoping to become a regular. I do find the focal length not too restrictive, but long enough to clean up clutter and focus on the subject.
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Martin
"One of the biggest mistakes a photographer can make is to look at the real world and cling to the vain hope that next time his film will somehow bear a closer resemblance to it" - Galen Rowell
Ah, food. I was tasked with some food. Not much available, but I do love some BBQ
Ponies!!! who doesn't love ponies?
The wife, always posing for me
More food!!!
And more BBQ... Not for vegans, sorry.
Although we also have some vegetables and fruits
And plants. I had to haul my fair share of plants back to the car, as expected.
And finally, a shaved ice vendor.
Thanks for watching. Hope you like the 25mm f:1.4. I do love it myself. Really like the focal length, and while I was tempted to jump to my 12-40mm, as my 12-60mm hasn't arrived yet, I didn't yield and kept shooting with the 25mm. It was a great experience which I'm hoping to become a regular. I do find the focal length not too restrictive, but long enough to clean up clutter and focus on the subject.
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Martin
"One of the biggest mistakes a photographer can make is to look at the real world and cling to the vain hope that next time his film will somehow bear a closer resemblance to it" - Galen Rowell
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cba_melbourne
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It was "standard" because 50mm is the focal length that is the easiest and cheapest to design for the 135mm format, and it is also the physically smallest to make FL for that format. Longer or shorter FL's like the next up 75mm or the next down 35mm already get larger and more expensive to correct to the same IQ level. And hence, virtually every SLR camera&lens kit in the film days came with a 50mm lens.
Me personally, I never owned a 50mm in the film days, it's an FL that I never cared for. I rather always had a 35 and a 75, and never missed the in-between.
jalywol
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I have two favorites:
I just LOVE this shot. It's like a little painting. I'd level it a bit, but don't touch it otherwise!
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I just LOVE this shot. It's like a little painting. I'd level it a bit, but don't touch it otherwise!
And you really captured a great moment here.
Although we also have some vegetables and fruits
I am glad you are enjoying the lens. It's definitely working well for you.
Ponies!!! who doesn't love ponies?
-J
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cba_melbourne
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Good point, and nice pictures from such a low cost and small lens.
I was talking SLR lenses of back in the film days, where that "50mm standard FL" originates from. That is a much newer DSLR lens you use there. The availability of better glasses and computational lens design has somewhat changed the "soft spot" for what is the smallest and easiest/cheapest to make FL's towards the wider end. The same is true in m43, that "soft spot" is more the 20mm FL.
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Thanks Janet. Is definitely growing on me, and is just my first outing with it. I see it accompanying me very often. I love how the restrictive FOV helps you focus on what is important and helps you provide a sense of story.I have two favorites:
I just LOVE this shot. It's like a little painting. I'd level it a bit, but don't touch it otherwise!
And you really captured a great moment here.
Although we also have some vegetables and fruits
I am glad you are enjoying the lens. It's definitely working well for you.
Ponies!!! who doesn't love ponies?
-J
Here you go, leveled.
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Martin
"One of the biggest mistakes a photographer can make is to look at the real world and cling to the vain hope that next time his film will somehow bear a closer resemblance to it" - Galen Rowell
Markusweld
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Yeah, it knocks my socks off every time I use it, especially when you look at the front element, & it's basically the size of your little pinkies fingernail. I read somewhere that the easiest & smallest focal length to make & design is expressly related to the diagonal measurement of the sensor. Can't remember exactly how, but it seems to work in this case. I liked it much better than the EF 50 STM that I had at the same time. Everyone's different butGood point, and nice pictures from such a low cost and small lens.
I was talking SLR lenses of back in the film days, where that "50mm standard FL" originates from. That is a much newer DSLR lens you use there. The availability of better glasses and computational lens design has somewhat changed the "soft spot" for what is the smallest and easiest/cheapest to make FL's towards the wider end. The same is true in m43, that "soft spot" is more the 20mm FL.
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