Sittatunga
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That's what Canon said they wanted, back in 2018. Unfortunately sales figures seem to have told them that they( and you and I) were wrong
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Looks like the M's replacement series has arrived
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davesurrey
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Can you point me at any article where Canon said that.
Also I think it's far too early to jump to any conclusion as RF-S is still relatively new. But if you have any sales figures that would be interesting.
Thanks.
The difference between Canon APS-C and full frame is 1.33 stops. The difference between Fuji APS-C and Fuji Medium format is 2 full stops. The significantly larger difference in Fuji sensor sizes means the lenses for one format make almost no sense on the other format. Why would someone want to use a medium format GF 45-100mm f/4.0 lens on crop when the XF 50-140mm f/2.8 is $300 cheaper? The Medium format GF 80mm f/1.7 is probably the only lens that might make sense on crop, but it costs around $2000. The $199 RF 50mm f/1.8 makes sense on crop. The $999 GF 50mm f/3.5 does not make sense on crop.
Almost everyone can find full frame lenses that will work for them on a crop sensor camera. I think you would be hard pressed to find a medium format lens that would work on crop
trungtran
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Reminds me of my A3000
Barebones camera. At least the R100 as a control wheel.
Barebones camera. At least the R100 as a control wheel.
MyReality
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I agree with your post. Finding a small inexpensive camera does it all well is almost impossible. I looked at a lot of them. It came down to the M200 or G9 X. I still may get the M200, because I just want to do 1080p video and I would mainly shoot in Av priority with that kind of camera.
davesurrey
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I doubt the difference between 2 stops and 1.3 is that significant and I'm sure we could each pick suitable lenses to compare...but that wasn't my point.
I was trying to say that IMO the ability to have a so called upgrade path is of less significance to warrant effectively dumping the M mount system.
And as I also said it's early days so we need to wait a while to see how it all works out for Canon.
I was trying to say that IMO the ability to have a so called upgrade path is of less significance to warrant effectively dumping the M mount system.
And as I also said it's early days so we need to wait a while to see how it all works out for Canon.
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I can't find it any more as I've replaced my phone twice since then and my computer once, but there was a Canon white paper in about September 2018 about the RF mount and any amount of marketing guff about how EOS M and EOS R were APS-C and full frame systems linked by EF lenses. I don't think Canon publish model by model sales figures but judging by the speed at which the EF lens range has contracted, with quite mainstream lenses being discontinued that have no RF equivalent (20mm/2.8, 100mm/2, 200mm/2.8, 300mm/4, 400mm/5.6, never mind all the ones that do have RF equivalents) suggests that EF sales are dropping off badly.
RF-S is very new, but my gut feeling is that there's less room for fast and exciting RF-S lenses than for fast and exciting EF-M lenses. Not that I'd be interested in them anyway. Besides RF-S is Canon's third go at APS-C format lenses.
Go look through the Fuji medium format GF lens catalog.
Focusing on an "upgrade" path is completely missing the point. It is more about cross compatibility.
There are a lot of full frame lenses that make perfect sense on a crop camera. For example, for sports and wildlife use, lenses like the 70-200mm f/2.8 or 100-400mm see a lot of use on crop cameras. Crop specific versions would not appreciably change in size. Why build two different lenses for two different systems when one lens can easily work for both? Back when I was using a 70D, the 70-200mm f/2.8 and 100-400mm were two of my most used lenses.
In comparison, there are pretty much zero medium format lenses that make any sense on a crop camera. The widest zoom is a 20-35mm f/4.0 and the longest zoom is a 100-200mm f/5.6.
Some of those were discontinued prior to the launch of the first EOS R and all of them were more than 20 years old when the R launched.
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citytrader
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No R line for me, I'm very happy with my M6mkII and no plans to replace it, I have just bought new the 70-200L F/4 ISII to replace my M 55-200, night and day the difference in picture quality with the con of the size and weight
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It looks like a plastic blob of junk has arrived from Canon.
CQui
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Nothing to do with EOS M's replacement, rather a EF-S of the lower end,
I've seen a good few young photograpfers having those as christmass present, with one or two kit lenses, unable to get any other lens for a long while, except the 50 1.8,
I've seen a good few young photograpfers having those as christmass present, with one or two kit lenses, unable to get any other lens for a long while, except the 50 1.8,
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