is it worth going from a74 to a7r5?

ahaslett said:

c0nfund0 said:

ahaslett said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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Ultrasonic sensor cleaning.

Andrew

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https://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2230/v1/en/contents/TP0003057068.html?search=ultrasonic

Still don't know if ultrasonic cleaning triggers automatically or only explicitly activated in settings.

Do notice occasionally with powering OFF my A7RV makes a clunk/shutter sound.

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You just have to love manuals written by engineers (I am an engineer).

Having used Olympus cameras for years, the A7Rv is the first Sony body that appears to have IBIS and sensor cleaning that really work, at least in theory.

Andrew

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c0nfund0 said:

ahaslett said:

c0nfund0 said:

ahaslett said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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Ultrasonic sensor cleaning.

Andrew

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https://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2230/v1/en/contents/TP0003057068.html?search=ultrasonic

Still don't know if ultrasonic cleaning triggers automatically or only explicitly activated in settings.

Do notice occasionally with powering OFF my A7RV makes a clunk/shutter sound.

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You just have to love manuals written by engineers (I am an engineer).

Having used Olympus cameras for years, the A7Rv is the first Sony body that appears to have IBIS and sensor cleaning that really work, at least in theory.

Andrew

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https://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2230/v1/en/contents/TP0002887819.html

sensor cleaning page states

"Cleaning may be performed automatically when the power is turned off."

So I guess it does self clean? shrugs.

I came from Fuji and never had dust issues with it's automatic sensor vibration. They also have settings to turn on/off automatic cleaning on power. Then again never had dust issue with any camera even without IBIS vibration since I only swap lens in clean environment).

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AlephNull said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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At first I thought you were asking about going from the A7RIV to the A7RV, and the answer is an emphatic yes - you lose nothing (except money!), and gain so much. I had no regrets upgrading my A7RIV to A7RV.

From the A7IV, though, it is more complicated:

• do you want more detail (or will you whine about file sizes?) ?
• is video important to you?
• will improved IBIS help you?
• Do you photograph subjects where the AF in the A7IV struggles?

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AlephNull said:

It is a good step up, but if affording it is a challenge, then don’t do it.
If affording it is not difficult, then it’s worth considering.

The new AF is really good, but if you are happy with the existing AF, you may wonder why you bothered.

The new rear screen and new EVF are both excellent, but definitely “nice to have”, not “must have”.

The new IBIS has been reported to be useful to some reviewers - I tend not to use slow shutter speeds.

The high pixel count that lets me crop heavily is why I bought the A7RIV, but when combined with the extra sharp focus in the A7RV, it is even more useful.

What is important to you?

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inasir1971 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

detail and sharpness. Better looking screen. I want a camera thats gonna last a long time. Recording seems better for the V i do recording and pics. At this point ive had the 4 for 20 days i can still refund for 100% instead of getting down the road and sayi9ng omg i dont want his now im stuck.

I do like the 4 its very nice but can it be better?

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Apart from the obvious resolution and tilt/flip screen, the two biggest improvements are: AF and IBIS.

The AF is much improved over the A74 in terms of subject detection (e.g. in wide area mode). You can now finally use the joystick to choose which subject to track which is a first for Sony.

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Member said:

You also now get full time DMF with any lens (except my Tamron for some reason).

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IBIS is also vastly improved - you really need to try it to see how much better it is.

I bought the A74 when it came out and thought its AF was great, till I got the 7R5.

Downsides are larger file sizes and more rolling shutter (if you use electronic shutter).

Can't comment on video.

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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MattPointZero said:

Unless there is a specific need, ~I think the money is better spent on glass. I had the iv then Rv - I am not sure I didn't like the iv more. Either way it is marginal.

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jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

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Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

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Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

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Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

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Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

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jeffj3 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

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Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

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:-O wow lol, some people

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

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Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

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Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

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not really i never said i shot like a professional.

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Not sure where this negative energy is coming from. I simply had a bunch of bills so i didnt think i could afford 7k in camera gear. So i actually do have a limit that i can spend. I am new and im enjoying learning and i do think learning with good equipment is key. you can think of me as you will i am making the best decision for ME. Do i wanna be a pro of course and i will be someday. Im asking for opinion not this guy is a jerk cause he wants to give a camera back and wants to be a fancy pants. Very childish reply mr jaq.

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

thank for the advice guys

jq

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Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

Click to expand...

Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

Click to expand...

Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

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not really i never said i shot like a professional.

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I didn't say you did. It seemed pretty clear, though, from the beginning that you were aspiring to shoot professionally.

Anyway, I've since taken a more sympathetic approach with you and offered lots of advice in response to your requests for help on your zig-zagging journey.

Jacques Cornell said:

Not sure where this negative energy is coming from. I simply had a bunch of bills so i didnt think i could afford 7k in camera gear. So i actually do have a limit that i can spend. I am new and im enjoying learning and i do think learning with good equipment is key. you can think of me as you will i am making the best decision for ME. Do i wanna be a pro of course and i will be someday. Im asking for opinion not this guy is a jerk cause he wants to give a camera back and wants to be a fancy pants. Very childish reply mr jaq.

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I'm surprised you still feel this way after all the constructive responses I've offered of late. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I misinterpreted your motivations at first, but I've since repented and sought to make amends by trying to offer useful information even as I've been mystified by your line of questioning.

Jacques Cornell said:

thank for the advice guys

jq

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

Click to expand...

Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

Click to expand...

Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

Click to expand...

not really i never said i shot like a professional.

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I didn't say you did. It seemed pretty clear, though, from the beginning that you were aspiring to shoot professionally.

Anyway, I've since taken a more sympathetic approach with you and offered lots of advice in response to your requests for help on your zig-zagging journey.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Not sure where this negative energy is coming from. I simply had a bunch of bills so i didnt think i could afford 7k in camera gear. So i actually do have a limit that i can spend. I am new and im enjoying learning and i do think learning with good equipment is key. you can think of me as you will i am making the best decision for ME. Do i wanna be a pro of course and i will be someday. Im asking for opinion not this guy is a jerk cause he wants to give a camera back and wants to be a fancy pants. Very childish reply mr jaq.

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I'm surprised you still feel this way after all the constructive responses I've offered of late. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I misinterpreted your motivations at first, but I've since repented and sought to make amends by trying to offer useful information even as I've been mystified by your line of questioning.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

thank for the advice guys

jq

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well i keep seeing these threads for some reasons. Not sure why

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Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

Click to expand...

Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

Click to expand...

Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

Click to expand...

not really i never said i shot like a professional.

Click to expand...

I didn't say you did. It seemed pretty clear, though, from the beginning that you were aspiring to shoot professionally.

Anyway, I've since taken a more sympathetic approach with you and offered lots of advice in response to your requests for help on your zig-zagging journey.

Jacques Cornell said:

Not sure where this negative energy is coming from. I simply had a bunch of bills so i didnt think i could afford 7k in camera gear. So i actually do have a limit that i can spend. I am new and im enjoying learning and i do think learning with good equipment is key. you can think of me as you will i am making the best decision for ME. Do i wanna be a pro of course and i will be someday. Im asking for opinion not this guy is a jerk cause he wants to give a camera back and wants to be a fancy pants. Very childish reply mr jaq.

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I'm surprised you still feel this way after all the constructive responses I've offered of late. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I misinterpreted your motivations at first, but I've since repented and sought to make amends by trying to offer useful information even as I've been mystified by your line of questioning.

Jacques Cornell said:

thank for the advice guys

jq

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well i keep seeing these threads for some reasons. Not sure why

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I don't know what you mean by "these threads". What you should have been seeing from me over the past several days is constructive and detailed suggestions to your various queries.

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

Click to expand...

Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

Click to expand...

Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

Click to expand...

not really i never said i shot like a professional.

Click to expand...

I didn't say you did. It seemed pretty clear, though, from the beginning that you were aspiring to shoot professionally.

Anyway, I've since taken a more sympathetic approach with you and offered lots of advice in response to your requests for help on your zig-zagging journey.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Not sure where this negative energy is coming from. I simply had a bunch of bills so i didnt think i could afford 7k in camera gear. So i actually do have a limit that i can spend. I am new and im enjoying learning and i do think learning with good equipment is key. you can think of me as you will i am making the best decision for ME. Do i wanna be a pro of course and i will be someday. Im asking for opinion not this guy is a jerk cause he wants to give a camera back and wants to be a fancy pants. Very childish reply mr jaq.

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I'm surprised you still feel this way after all the constructive responses I've offered of late. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I misinterpreted your motivations at first, but I've since repented and sought to make amends by trying to offer useful information even as I've been mystified by your line of questioning.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

thank for the advice guys

jq

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well i keep seeing these threads for some reasons. Not sure why

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I don't know what you mean by "these threads". What you should have been seeing from me over the past several days is constructive and detailed suggestions to your various queries.

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right and i have and thank you. Not sure where this thread poped up is what i was saying

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

Click to expand...

Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

Click to expand...

Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

Click to expand...

not really i never said i shot like a professional.

Click to expand...

I didn't say you did. It seemed pretty clear, though, from the beginning that you were aspiring to shoot professionally.

Anyway, I've since taken a more sympathetic approach with you and offered lots of advice in response to your requests for help on your zig-zagging journey.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Not sure where this negative energy is coming from. I simply had a bunch of bills so i didnt think i could afford 7k in camera gear. So i actually do have a limit that i can spend. I am new and im enjoying learning and i do think learning with good equipment is key. you can think of me as you will i am making the best decision for ME. Do i wanna be a pro of course and i will be someday. Im asking for opinion not this guy is a jerk cause he wants to give a camera back and wants to be a fancy pants. Very childish reply mr jaq.

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I'm surprised you still feel this way after all the constructive responses I've offered of late. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I misinterpreted your motivations at first, but I've since repented and sought to make amends by trying to offer useful information even as I've been mystified by your line of questioning.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

thank for the advice guys

jq

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well i keep seeing these threads for some reasons. Not sure why

Click to expand...

I don't know what you mean by "these threads". What you should have been seeing from me over the past several days is constructive and detailed suggestions to your various queries.

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right and i have and thank you. Not sure where this thread poped up is what i was saying

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witht hat being said i have found a way to get a lill extra money to get a a74. Ill prob just stay with that. I took really nice pics and it will last me a long time. Thing that second guesses me is crop i crop a lot. Not every phote but some and for some reason i think the a74 does good but the 61 mp would do better but that comes at a hefty price

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

Click to expand...

Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

Click to expand...

Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

Click to expand...

not really i never said i shot like a professional.

Click to expand...

I didn't say you did. It seemed pretty clear, though, from the beginning that you were aspiring to shoot professionally.

Anyway, I've since taken a more sympathetic approach with you and offered lots of advice in response to your requests for help on your zig-zagging journey.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Not sure where this negative energy is coming from. I simply had a bunch of bills so i didnt think i could afford 7k in camera gear. So i actually do have a limit that i can spend. I am new and im enjoying learning and i do think learning with good equipment is key. you can think of me as you will i am making the best decision for ME. Do i wanna be a pro of course and i will be someday. Im asking for opinion not this guy is a jerk cause he wants to give a camera back and wants to be a fancy pants. Very childish reply mr jaq.

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I'm surprised you still feel this way after all the constructive responses I've offered of late. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I misinterpreted your motivations at first, but I've since repented and sought to make amends by trying to offer useful information even as I've been mystified by your line of questioning.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

thank for the advice guys

jq

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well i keep seeing these threads for some reasons. Not sure why

Click to expand...

I don't know what you mean by "these threads". What you should have been seeing from me over the past several days is constructive and detailed suggestions to your various queries.

Click to expand...

right and i have and thank you. Not sure where this thread poped up is what i was saying

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witht hat being said i have found a way to get a lill extra money to get a a74. Ill prob just stay with that. I took really nice pics and it will last me a long time. Thing that second guesses me is crop i crop a lot. Not every phote but some and for some reason i think the a74 does good but the 61 mp would do better but that comes at a hefty price

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4Photos said:

MattPointZero said:

Unless there is a specific need, ~I think the money is better spent on glass. I had the iv then Rv - I am not sure I didn't like the iv more. Either way it is marginal.

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I share your sentiment about glass, that's what makes the picture after all. But I am surprised you find so little "marginal" difference between these cameras.

#1. You can use small RAW on your A7r5, which should give you very clean 26MP files. And in crop mode, you also get 26MP files - so this is almost like an in-build 1.5x tele converter, giving all your lenses double duty. Especially for events photographers this should be great.

#2. It's the new IBIS sounds like a game changer.

To me, these two are the main reasons to upgrade from A7r3 to A7r5. Could you please comment whether my expectation regarding #1 and #2 are in the right ball park?

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Jacques Cornell said:

jeffj3 said:

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Is it worth the 1k in price to switch? I Like the a74 but if the a7r5 is better

Click to expand...

Hell yes! The viewfinder is a world of difference. I kept my IV because I work events mostly for now and need two bodies. The IV is still great but if you can only keep one, get the RV. The new screen mechanism along with what everyone else mentioned.

Click to expand...

Don't bother. The OP posted this yesterday.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66951777

He's realized that it takes more than buying a fancy camera to become a professional.

Click to expand...

not really i never said i shot like a professional.

Click to expand...

I didn't say you did. It seemed pretty clear, though, from the beginning that you were aspiring to shoot professionally.

Anyway, I've since taken a more sympathetic approach with you and offered lots of advice in response to your requests for help on your zig-zagging journey.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Not sure where this negative energy is coming from. I simply had a bunch of bills so i didnt think i could afford 7k in camera gear. So i actually do have a limit that i can spend. I am new and im enjoying learning and i do think learning with good equipment is key. you can think of me as you will i am making the best decision for ME. Do i wanna be a pro of course and i will be someday. Im asking for opinion not this guy is a jerk cause he wants to give a camera back and wants to be a fancy pants. Very childish reply mr jaq.

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I'm surprised you still feel this way after all the constructive responses I've offered of late. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I misinterpreted your motivations at first, but I've since repented and sought to make amends by trying to offer useful information even as I've been mystified by your line of questioning.

HAPPYGUY_45 said:

thank for the advice guys

jq

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well i keep seeing these threads for some reasons. Not sure why

Click to expand...

I don't know what you mean by "these threads". What you should have been seeing from me over the past several days is constructive and detailed suggestions to your various queries.

Click to expand...

right and i have and thank you. Not sure where this thread poped up is what i was saying

Click to expand...

witht hat being said i have found a way to get a lill extra money to get a a74. Ill prob just stay with that. I took really nice pics and it will last me a long time. Thing that second guesses me is crop i crop a lot.

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HAPPYGUY_45 said:

Not every phote but some and for some reason i think the a74 does good but the 61 mp would do better but that comes at a hefty price

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MattPointZero said:

4Photos said:

MattPointZero said:

Unless there is a specific need, ~I think the money is better spent on glass. I had the iv then Rv - I am not sure I didn't like the iv more. Either way it is marginal.

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I share your sentiment about glass, that's what makes the picture after all. But I am surprised you find so little "marginal" difference between these cameras.

#1. You can use small RAW on your A7r5, which should give you very clean 26MP files. And in crop mode, you also get 26MP files - so this is almost like an in-build 1.5x tele converter, giving all your lenses double duty. Especially for events photographers this should be great.

#2. It's the new IBIS sounds like a game changer.

To me, these two are the main reasons to upgrade from A7r3 to A7r5. Could you please comment whether my expectation regarding #1 and #2 are in the right ball park?

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Hi

Sorry, only just saw this.

OK, #1 - I don't use S and M raw, nor APSC mode, so I can't really comment. APSC mode is just cropping, and without reading back I think (hope) I mentioned cropping as one of the advantages if you need that in your work. Cropping capability might be the best reason to change in fact. M raw I don't use because most of what I read says there is a penalty in IQ. I don't care about file sizes, so I'd rather just shoot in raw and have done, YMMV

#2, IBIS. I don't know about this - Sony IBIS isn't the best generally, the A7Rv seems like it may be a little better, but not massively noticeably so for me - but I haven't scientifically tested it, so again you might find it more useful. I was shooting for a while with the Hasselblad X2D. Now THAT has 7 stops plus of IBIS - it is incredible what you can hand hold, and is really clearly observable. The A7Rv doesn't feel the same.

I think my main point is that people (me too) lock on to the spec differences between the LCDs and EVFs, and the fancy screen - but whilst they are of course nice improvements, they don't materially affect the user experience for me, and they certainly don't affect the image output. When I look back over images from my A7iv and this A7Rv, there is nothing that makes me prefer the v images when viewed globally - in fact I think the colours are slightly nicer out of the iv.

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