The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

On a side note, the price range of the PEN-F, used, is 749 EUR to 864 EUR.

The price of the PEN E-P7, new, is 849 EUR body only, and 949 EUR with the 14-42mm pancake lens.
No idea whether their mainland Europe operation has any, but MPB in the UK have several E-P7 camera bodies, in "Like New" condition, priced at £504... which is some 580 Euro, I think?

Got mine, from the UK site, almost a year ago now.

They've also got no less than eighteen Pen-Fs at the moment - with those in "Excellent" condition (their next step down from "Like New") priced at £729.

More than I was, or am, prepared to pay!

Peter
Oddly enough, I see the PEN-Fs but not the PEN E-P7s on MPB.

Any idea how much the PEN-F was sold at when it was released?
 
On a side note, the price range of the PEN-F, used, is 749 EUR to 864 EUR.

The price of the PEN E-P7, new, is 849 EUR body only, and 949 EUR with the 14-42mm pancake lens.
No idea whether their mainland Europe operation has any, but MPB in the UK have several E-P7 camera bodies, in "Like New" condition, priced at £504... which is some 580 Euro, I think?

Got mine, from the UK site, almost a year ago now.

They've also got no less than eighteen Pen-Fs at the moment - with those in "Excellent" condition (their next step down from "Like New") priced at £729.

More than I was, or am, prepared to pay!

Peter
Oddly enough, I see the PEN-Fs but not the PEN E-P7s on MPB.

Any idea how much the PEN-F was sold at when it was released?
Hi! Is that on MPB's European site?

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The introduction to this UK website's reviews of the two...

For the Pen-F: "The Olympus PEN-F body only costs £999.99 / $1199, the PEN-F and M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-42mm 1-3.5-5.6 EZ Pancake lens kit £1099.99, PEN-F and the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 17mm 1:1.8 lens kit is £1199.99."


As against, for E-P7: "The Olympus E-P7 is available now in two colour combinations, white & silver or black & silver, as body only priced at £749 or as a kit with the M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ lens for £849."


So £250 more, either body-only, or with the EZ kitlens - before currency fluctuations, inflation etc.

Peter
 
On a side note, the price range of the PEN-F, used, is 749 EUR to 864 EUR.

The price of the PEN E-P7, new, is 849 EUR body only, and 949 EUR with the 14-42mm pancake lens.
No idea whether their mainland Europe operation has any, but MPB in the UK have several E-P7 camera bodies, in "Like New" condition, priced at £504... which is some 580 Euro, I think?

Got mine, from the UK site, almost a year ago now.

They've also got no less than eighteen Pen-Fs at the moment - with those in "Excellent" condition (their next step down from "Like New") priced at £729.

More than I was, or am, prepared to pay!

Peter
Oddly enough, I see the PEN-Fs but not the PEN E-P7s on MPB.

Any idea how much the PEN-F was sold at when it was released?
Hi! Is that on MPB's European site?

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The introduction to this UK website's reviews of the two...

For the Pen-F: "The Olympus PEN-F body only costs £999.99 / $1199, the PEN-F and M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-42mm 1-3.5-5.6 EZ Pancake lens kit £1099.99, PEN-F and the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 17mm 1:1.8 lens kit is £1199.99."

https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/olympus_pen_f_review

As against, for E-P7: "The Olympus E-P7 is available now in two colour combinations, white & silver or black & silver, as body only priced at £749 or as a kit with the M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ lens for £849."

https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/olympus_e_p7_review

So £250 more, either body-only, or with the EZ kitlens - before currency fluctuations, inflation etc.

Peter
Thanks Peter, super helpful!

And yes, that's using the non-UK European version of MBP.

Looking at some pictures, it seems as if they hand out the "excellent condition" quite generously!
 
Hey folks!

I took immense pleasure reading this post, as I've been contemplating purchasing the EP-7 myself.

This being said, as i already own the OM-5 (and the OM-1), I find it hard to justify the purchase... however good looking the EP-7 appears to be!

Some already commented on this, but I'm keen to hear from people who have owned both the Pen-F (can be found used in Europe) and the EP-7 (can be found new).

I've owned the Fuji X100v in the past and, as I'm left eye dominant, the viewfinder was actually annoying at times in my experience!

I look forward to reading you all! :-)
I have both a PEN F and an E-P7 and am delighted to have both. I bought my PEN F from B&H while I was waiting for my E-P7 to arrive from Japan. The PEN F suddenly appeared in the used section with a rating of "Like New", so I immediately bought it. It was the complete packaged kit with flash,etc. and had a shutter count of 184. The price seems to be continuing to go up, so I would buy a PEN F first. One thing I prefer on the PEN F is the four custom settings which you don't have on the E-P7.

However, on a seven week trip this past December and January I took the E-P7 instead of the PEN F with me as I was carrying my G95, GX850, & GRIIIx and five lenses with me as well. There is a noticable difference in size and weight between the PEN F and E-P7. I was real happy with the results of the E-P7 and I would guess that around 40% of my photos came from this camera with the PL8-18mm and PL15mm lenses the two lenses I always used for this set up.

Don't worry too much about the price you are seeing for a PEN F in excellent condition. It is what it is and you probabably won't do better. I paid US$200.00 more for my G95 than today's price. C'est la vie!

Oh, on an upcoming trip I'll be taking the PEN F as it's a shorter trip and I'll be travelling with a much smaller kit.
 
Hey folks!

I took immense pleasure reading this post, as I've been contemplating purchasing the EP-7 myself.

This being said, as i already own the OM-5 (and the OM-1), I find it hard to justify the purchase... however good looking the EP-7 appears to be!

Some already commented on this, but I'm keen to hear from people who have owned both the Pen-F (can be found used in Europe) and the EP-7 (can be found new).

I've owned the Fuji X100v in the past and, as I'm left eye dominant, the viewfinder was actually annoying at times in my experience!

I look forward to reading you all! :-)
The Pen-F is, well, the Pen-F. It is wonderful to use. I have an OM-1, EM5 MKiii and now an EP-7. I sold my EM10 MKiv in favor of the EP-7 because it is even smaller. The EP-7 is more for social situations where I will need a small flash such as at a restaurant. I also really like the tilt screen. The OM-1 is more my wildlife camera, the EM5 MKiii for city and travel but so is the Pen-F. At some point the 5 will be sold but no way for the Pen-F. If you can find a nice Pen-F, that is the one I would choose. The EP-7 (I like it way more than I thought I would) is a very nice camera but the Pen-F wins easily between the two for me. Get both if you can 😁

I also had the X100V but sold it after getting the Ricoh GRIII, a fantastic camera!
I like how you think, I'd love to get both! But then I'm pretty sure I'd have to sleep in my car for the better part of 2023!

So looks aside, you would say you enjoy using your PEN-F more than your EP-7 (which you enjoy nonetheless)?

It's a shame it's no longer possible to find them other than online. I wish I could start by holding one in person; that would be a good start!
I enjoy them both but the big thing is that the Pen-F has an EVF. Build quality for the Pen-F is also nicer but I was pleasantly surprised about the EP-7 quality, it is really quite nice. So the Pen-F is slightly bigger, has a FAS and an EVF, comes in silver or black. The EP-7 is slightly smaller with a tilt screen and silver only. Image quality is going to be basically the same. It really comes down to your preferences.
 
The Pen-F is, well, the Pen-F. It is wonderful to use. I have an OM-1, EM5 MKiii and now an EP-7. I sold my EM10 MKiv in favor of the EP-7 because it is even smaller. The EP-7 is more for social situations where I will need a small flash such as at a restaurant. I also really like the tilt screen. The OM-1 is more my wildlife camera, the EM5 MKiii for city and travel but so is the Pen-F. At some point the 5 will be sold but no way for the Pen-F. If you can find a nice Pen-F, that is the one I would choose. The EP-7 (I like it way more than I thought I would) is a very nice camera but the Pen-F wins easily between the two for me. Get both if you can 😁

I also had the X100V but sold it after getting the Ricoh GRIII, a fantastic camera!
Had a GRIII (x) as well, too small and light for me. But nice images.
 
Hey folks!

I took immense pleasure reading this post, as I've been contemplating purchasing the EP-7 myself.

This being said, as i already own the OM-5 (and the OM-1), I find it hard to justify the purchase... however good looking the EP-7 appears to be!

Some already commented on this, but I'm keen to hear from people who have owned both the Pen-F (can be found used in Europe) and the EP-7 (can be found new).

I've owned the Fuji X100v in the past and, as I'm left eye dominant, the viewfinder was actually annoying at times in my experience!

I look forward to reading you all! :-)
The Pen-F is, well, the Pen-F. It is wonderful to use. I have an OM-1, EM5 MKiii and now an EP-7. I sold my EM10 MKiv in favor of the EP-7 because it is even smaller. The EP-7 is more for social situations where I will need a small flash such as at a restaurant. I also really like the tilt screen. The OM-1 is more my wildlife camera, the EM5 MKiii for city and travel but so is the Pen-F. At some point the 5 will be sold but no way for the Pen-F. If you can find a nice Pen-F, that is the one I would choose. The EP-7 (I like it way more than I thought I would) is a very nice camera but the Pen-F wins easily between the two for me. Get both if you can 😁

I also had the X100V but sold it after getting the Ricoh GRIII, a fantastic camera!
I like how you think, I'd love to get both! But then I'm pretty sure I'd have to sleep in my car for the better part of 2023!

So looks aside, you would say you enjoy using your PEN-F more than your EP-7 (which you enjoy nonetheless)?

It's a shame it's no longer possible to find them other than online. I wish I could start by holding one in person; that would be a good start!
I enjoy them both but the big thing is that the Pen-F has an EVF. Build quality for the Pen-F is also nicer but I was pleasantly surprised about the EP-7 quality, it is really quite nice. So the Pen-F is slightly bigger, has a FAS and an EVF, comes in silver or black. The EP-7 is slightly smaller with a tilt screen and silver only. Image quality is going to be basically the same. It really comes down to your preferences.
 
Some user reviews said that the AF of PenF is very slow, and keep hunting in low light.
And Pen-F is not light at all in my opinion
I guess it all depends what you’re used to. The PEN-F is neither the fastest- nor the slowest-focusing camera I own, but it seems perfectly adequate. I suspect the E-P7 edges it out, though (haven’t done a rigorous side-by-side comparo).

The PEN-F does have a nice heft for its size, on account of its all-metal construction, but I’d still consider it an objectively lightweight camera at well under 500 grams. Here again the E-P7 has the advantage though, if you prioritize smaller dimensions and lesser weight.
 
They were a steal at launch when Olympus was bundling the 75mm f/1.8 with them. If they had that sale on again, I would absolutely get one and consider retiring my last GM5.
 
It’s sad to see that many of the user will give up buying E-P7 because of no EVF.

I admit that without EVF will affect the use in some occasion (strong sunshine). But I think it’s a sacrifice that worth for buying a compact, beautiful, easy to use camera.
Old thread, I know but anyone who stumbles across it and misses the EVF but loves everything else about the camera - look into getting a “varifocal finder”. Clips to the flash hot shoe. You are welcome 😁
 
Hi, does anyone know how to change the EV on this pen EP 7? I found contrast but I need a fast pption to change -3 to +3 light adjustment Also there is a button AEL AFL on the back, but I can't figure out what it does, I don't see any change? Thanks!
 
I have the E-P7 on the way, will be my first Micro third camera, Want something small for street, walk around etc. My Nikon Z FF system to big an heavy for daily use IMO. selling all my Fuji system. Pictures look good
 
I have the E-P7 on the way, will be my first Micro third camera, Want something small for street, walk around etc. My Nikon Z FF system to big an heavy for daily use IMO. selling all my Fuji system. Pictures look good
Got mine just weeks before this thread started - and am still very happy with it!

Here, the head of a fairly large puppet, as seen "warts and all" in a museum in Cadiz, Spain - shot with the tiny Lumix 12-32 kitlens.

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Hope you'll enjoy yours!

Peter

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Currently OM System has very good price for E-P7 with 14-42mm EZ pancake. Actually a steal - only 599 EUR.
 
I'd buy one if they offered an all black version. Small, all black cameras are ideal for street photography.
 
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Currently OM System has very good price for E-P7 with 14-42mm EZ pancake. Actually a steal - only 599 EUR.
Is it because new Pen will be released?
 
I'd buy one if they offered an all black version. Small, all black cameras are ideal for street photography.
Not an issue. I've used bright coloured compacts and nobody takes much notice.

In fact the non-black cameras keep a person looking like a tourist and not like some prowling "professional".
 
Currently OM System has very good price for E-P7 with 14-42mm EZ pancake. Actually a steal - only 599 EUR.
Is it because new Pen will be released?
A big Japanese store lists all the E-P7 variants as out of stock but they are accepting orders.

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From https://www.mapcamera.com/search?keyword=E-P7&igngkeyword=1

So they are waiting on a product re-run. It sells well in Japan so I guess it will continue for a while.

That success may encourage a new Pen with OM System label on it as obviously the right to keep selling stuff with Olympus on it will have fizzled out.

Then for Europe it needs that USB-C socket as it will be a new product. That may encourage OM to make some other updates and changes if they think that the investment is worth it.

It would be a shame to see the Pen line disappear forever, but hey, bean counters rule industry so think of worst case scenario and it will most likely come true.
 
Currently OM System has very good price for E-P7 with 14-42mm EZ pancake. Actually a steal - only 599 EUR.
Is it because new Pen will be released?
A big Japanese store lists all the E-P7 variants as out of stock but they are accepting orders.

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From https://www.mapcamera.com/search?keyword=E-P7&igngkeyword=1

So they are waiting on a product re-run. It sells well in Japan so I guess it will continue for a while.

That success may encourage a new Pen with OM System label on it as obviously the right to keep selling stuff with Olympus on it will have fizzled out.

Then for Europe it needs that USB-C socket as it will be a new product. That may encourage OM to make some other updates and changes if they think that the investment is worth it.
Being less than optimistic, I decided to get myself a second while I could - but won't mind being pleasantly surprised at some later date!
It would be a shame to see the Pen line disappear forever, but hey, bean counters rule industry so think of worst case scenario and it will most likely come true.
Peter

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