I love my M6 ii but keep thinking the R7 may suit me better for birding

Polisky wrote:

KevinRA wrote:

Polisky wrote:

So I have made the journey you are thinking of - via the R10 which I still really like and own.

The R7 is marginally better for static birds.

The R7 and R10 are far superior for birds in flight - both equally good AF (with my lenses at least) - and handle better with larger lenses too. I miss though only 2 control dials. But the eye tracking AF is amazing for birding.

2nd hand trade in prices not great for the M6II now - I sold one but keeping one as I really like the 11-22, 32mm and also the tiny 15-45 - the RF 18-45 for me is a non starter.

So you might just find the R10 a good compromise and can keep then the M6II as well? The R10 is excellent and the difference in resolution is not massive - about a 1.15x teleconverter needed on the R10 only to match the R7. And the pixels do seem a bit cleaner and sharper on both the R7 and R10 - maybe a weaker anti aliasing filter?

How about M6II then on your current M glass - and R10 on your telephoto?

Thank you for sharing your experiences, it is good to know that there is not that much improvement for static birds as I find that is where most of my frustration lies.

It's also a good point about the current prices - though I bought my M6ii secondhand as well, so I would perhaps not lose that much judging from some prices I'm seeing online. But then there's also the two M lenses and the EF M adapter, so I think it could cover a good chunk of the R7 costs - especially if I manage to find a used one at some point!

What holds me back from the R10 is not just the MP count, but the lack of other handy features for birding that I like in the M6ii, such as the high shutter speed. I was also thinking the weatherproofing of the R7 would be useful in certain situations.

How do you find the R10 relative to the R7 in that regard?

So the R10 goes to 1/4000s - electronic first curtain  I never shoot that fast - 1/2000 normally is fine for most flying birds.  Appreciate humming birds may benefit from 1/8000 but that is about that.  Otherwise R10 has just as good controls IMHO, just as good AF and the smaller buffer is not an issue in CRAW with a fast card.

The R10 survived dust well on safari - but not tested it with rain.  It would be no worse generally than M6II.  One of my M6II's did get a little crunchy on the controls though with fine dust.  R10 was fine.