Moving from Canon M system

davel33 wrote:

MAC wrote:

navinadvani wrote:

MAC wrote:

navinadvani wrote:

MAC wrote:

navinadvani wrote:

MAC wrote:

if it were me, I wouldn't invest in m without a second body, like a m6II

if it were me, I'd migrate toward a new travel kit: M50, 11-22, 32, R8 + Rf 24-105 (non L)

My travel kit will be M6II, 11-22, 32, R8 + RF 24-105 F4L

Why have 2 systems?

I was thinking of the M50 + 11-22 + 22/2 + 32/1.4 + 56/1.4 + 18-150 (all EFM). Total weight 1.53 kgs.

I'd get the 400gm 16/1.4 for the wide end if I had the weight to spare.

you then have all that glass invested in one body - think about what happens if you lose that body

I buy another body or get a spare now, while they are still available.

and your m50 can't do this

Stunning AF demo of the R8 by the Fro: Canon EOS R Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)

Which lenses is he using here?

Of course, you cannot compare a FF equipped with fast, expensive, heavy glass with a much poorer APSC camera. The question is do I need this level of performance?

Besides if I move to the RF system, I'd have to either shell out for expensive RF glass or adapt old and heavy EF glass. RF-S is unlikely to get too much attention from Canon.

I don't shoot sports. I rarely shoot in very low light. Most of my shooting is done on holidays visiting museums, hiking, indoor dinner parties, etc. For this use, a few fast primes (24/2, 50/2, and 80/1.4 in FF equivalent) and light zooms (16-35/4.5, 28-80/4.5, and 70-300/5.6 in FF equivalent) are adequate.

then yeah, go with your m plan and at some point get a second m body to keep you sustained for the next decade

that said, watch that video again, it doesn't just apply to action, it changes the way folks will shoot stills too - notice the tap, tap, tap on his screen changes from eye to eye

if this is not for you, and the R8 + RF 35 f1.8 IS and the RF 85 F2 IS is light and not for you, then stay put, you are meeting your needs.

But for me, whether action or stills, I'll be taking the paradigm leap and shooting in continuous AF subject tracking with the R8 most of the time, whether it be stills, or action

The biggest thing that bugs me about m is no bright zooms

There aren't any bright zooms for RF-S either. The bright RF (FF) lenses would be heavy by design. The best camera is one that makes itself conducive to carrying. If you have to think about carrying a camera, there might be occasions when you won't.

this portrait setup has world class AF, has IS, has shallower dof control, and is less weight than your 1.4 Kg

R8 = 461 g

RF 35 f1.8 IS– 300 g

RF 85 F2 IS = 497 g

Total 1258 g

the RF 24-105 stm is just 391 g - your at 1.6 kg out the door

MAC I am in 100% in agreement with you I have and use all 3. :)))

good stuff Dave, and low noise too!

But I also like my zooms

^this

I know you love your light weight RF 24-105 stm.  And I am also looking at more RF glass long run

RF 100-400 RF 1.4 ext EF 16

I love my RF 24-105 F4L IS with nano focus and control ring for EC for indoors that will focus in moonlight with world class AF with R8 and with dxo pl6 deep prime will do a world class job in cleaning up noise in low light - I don't need f2.8 on FF, because F4 with these new bodies and software can do the job for me