An R8 is the smallest Canon full frame. If you need smaller, R8 is not the way to go.
An M kit with a couple of zooms and a good prime is terrific for travel where size/weight are important. Full frame opens up another dimension - I prefer it for low light events and landscapes. I'm in the process of selling all of my unused gear, including a 6D (full frame) and will be using an M kit (crop) for the next few months as I make my final decision on which full frame R to replace the 6D.
I have decided to wait on the R10.
The Sigma 16 is also a fantastic lens, but maybe more for special occasions. It is larger and heavier than the other EF-M lenses. But it is a great lens especially for parties, family gatherings and environmental portraits. You have to decide for yourself if you need it.
Also a difficult question. I own both. My copy of the 55-200mm is great from 55 - 130mm. Above that it is slightly softer, but usable. My EF-S lens is better at the long end. And overall I would say the Ef-S lens is slightly better. But then comes the size and weight. The EF-M is so small and light and needs no adapter. Tough decision.
You are asking difficult questions.
If you are not using the long end very much, I would replace the EF-S 55-250 with the EF-M 55-200 (or EF-M 18-150mm?). And if you also replace the 50mm with the Sigma 56, you don't need to carry the adapter. Sorry, but I can't take the decisions for you.
For travel (with the M50) I would keep the 11-22, 22 and add the 18-150 and 56 1.4. Keep the 15-45 as backup (no significant resale value and very useful as ultra light standard zoom) and get rid of the rest. The 18-150 will cover most of your travel photography needs and the 22 and 56 will be there for you when the light goes down or for a nice portrait. That’s a very lightweight and powerful travel kit.The Sigma 16 is also a fantastic lens, but maybe more for special occasions. It is larger and heavier than the other EF-M lenses. But it is a great lens especially for parties, family gatherings and environmental portraits. You have to decide for yourself if you need it.
Also a difficult question. I own both. My copy of the 55-200mm is great from 55 - 130mm. Above that it is a slightly softer, but usable. My EF-S lens is better at the long end. And overall I would say the Ef-S lens is slightly better. But then comes the size and weight. The EF-M is so small and light and needs no adapter. Tough decision.
You are asking difficult questions.
I own the Sigma 16, the Canon 32 and the Sigma 56. And I am very happy with that. Many M system owners would say that the Canon 32mm is a must have lens. And it is one of the best 50mm (ff equivalent) lenses Canon has ever made. The Canon is slightly sharper, has "near macro" and is smaller. Some claim the Sigma has softer bokeh. But both are great lenses.
If you want to see some pictures taken with the Canon 32mm:
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4362395
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4450296
If you are not using the long end very much, I would replace the EF-S 55-250 with the EF-M 55-200 (or EF-M 18-150mm?). And if you also replace the 50mm with the Sigma 56, you don't need to carry the adapter. Sorry, but I can't take the decisions for you.
Add the 32/1.4, 56/1.4, and 18-150 to your travel kit along with the 11-22, 22/2. If your 55-250 still fits, carry it also - it will be especially helpful when you want that extra 100mm on the long end. side note: if your 55-250 is a good copy, keep it and don't worry about the EF-M 55-200. This kit of 3 primes & 3 zooms is quite good and should serve you quite well for a number of years.
The 56/1.4 and 32/1.4 and 18-150 could fit
Agreed. But it seems that Canon will not be releasing any fast glass (< f/2) for the RF-S cameras. So until I have better clarity on this, the R/RF series is off the table.
Agreed. I just came back from a hike carrying: Canon M50, Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM, Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 ISII STM, Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0, Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM, Canon EF 50mm F1.4 + Canon EF-EFM adapter.
If I replace the EF-S 55-250 with an EF-M 55-250 and replace the EF 50/1.4 with the Sigma 56/1.4 then add a Canon 32/1.4, I'd end up with a kit that weighs about the same.
I think the EF-M might be worth it if I am discarding the adapter altogether.
That's why we have experts like you.You are asking difficult questions.
This might be the best combination.
I could replace the EF-M 15-45 and the EF-S 55-250 with the EF-M 18-150. I think 150mm might give me all the reach I need.
The idea is to avoid the adapter altogether.And if you also replace the 50mm with the Sigma 56, you don't need to carry the adapter. Sorry, but I can't take the decisions for you.
I am thinking: 11-22 + 22/2 + 32/1.4 + 56/1.4 + 18-150/f 3.5-6.3
Is there any particular need to have 2 lenses covering 55-150?
Keep your eye out for an M50 mark II or an M6 mark II. And let the RF-S mature a bit is my advice, for you. I’ve tried to make FF R compact, but you nailed it. As soon as most lenses are added? It’s FF glass after all.
Not really. The main reason to keep the 55-250 is for the additional reach. For travel the 18-150 is perfect, at least for me. My 18-150 is better than the 15-45 & 55-200 (both sold)
Honest question, do you really need to carry for a hike 5 different lenses? If I were in that situation I would probably spend more time thinking on what lens to use and keep swapping them instead of enjoying the scenery and capturing photos with whichever focal lens I had on the camera. Sometimes simplicity is better.
you then have all that glass invested in one body - think about what happens if you lose that body
That’s the kit I take with my M6II when traveling.If I replace the EF-S 55-250 with an EF-M 55-250 and replace the EF 50/1.4 with the Sigma 56/1.4 then add a Canon 32/1.4, I'd end up with a kit that weighs about the same.
Canon M50 is 390 gms
Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM 220 gms
Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM 260 gms
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0 105 gms
Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM 130 gms
Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM 235 gms
Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN 280gms
If I add a Sigma 16/1.4, I'd have to choose between carrying it or the 56 1/4 + 22/2.
I think the EF-M might be worth it if I am discarding the adapter altogether.
That's why we have experts like you.You are asking difficult questions.
This might be the best combination.
I could replace the EF-M 15-45 and the EF-S 55-250 with the EF-M 18-150. I think 150mm might give me all the reach I need.
How does the 18-150 compare with the EF-M 15-45, EF-M 55-200 and EF-S 55-250?
The idea is to avoid the adapter altogether.And if you also replace the 50mm with the Sigma 56, you don't need to carry the adapter. Sorry, but I can't take the decisions for you.
I am thinking: 11-22 + 22/2 + 32/1.4 + 56/1.4 + 18-150/f 3.5-6.3
and it is a great travel kit if the body doesn't break and they don't discontinue m!That’s the kit I take with my M6II when traveling.If I replace the EF-S 55-250 with an EF-M 55-250 and replace the EF 50/1.4 with the Sigma 56/1.4 then add a Canon 32/1.4, I'd end up with a kit that weighs about the same.
Canon M50 is 390 gms
Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM 220 gms
Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM 260 gms
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0 105 gms
Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM 130 gms
Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM 235 gms
Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN 280gms
If I add a Sigma 16/1.4, I'd have to choose between carrying it or the 56 1/4 + 22/2.
I think the EF-M might be worth it if I am discarding the adapter altogether.
That's why we have experts like you.You are asking difficult questions.
This might be the best combination.
I could replace the EF-M 15-45 and the EF-S 55-250 with the EF-M 18-150. I think 150mm might give me all the reach I need.
How does the 18-150 compare with the EF-M 15-45, EF-M 55-200 and EF-S 55-250?
The idea is to avoid the adapter altogether.And if you also replace the 50mm with the Sigma 56, you don't need to carry the adapter. Sorry, but I can't take the decisions for you.
I am thinking: 11-22 + 22/2 + 32/1.4 + 56/1.4 + 18-150/f 3.5-6.3
Oh common, you will find a body on the used market, don't worry.and it is a great travel kit if the body doesn't break and they don't discontinue m!That’s the kit I take with my M6II when traveling.If I replace the EF-S 55-250 with an EF-M 55-250 and replace the EF 50/1.4 with the Sigma 56/1.4 then add a Canon 32/1.4, I'd end up with a kit that weighs about the same.
Canon M50 is 390 gms
Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM 220 gms
Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM 260 gms
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0 105 gms
Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM 130 gms
Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM 235 gms
Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN 280gms
If I add a Sigma 16/1.4, I'd have to choose between carrying it or the 56 1/4 + 22/2.
I think the EF-M might be worth it if I am discarding the adapter altogether.
That's why we have experts like you.You are asking difficult questions.
This might be the best combination.
I could replace the EF-M 15-45 and the EF-S 55-250 with the EF-M 18-150. I think 150mm might give me all the reach I need.
How does the 18-150 compare with the EF-M 15-45, EF-M 55-200 and EF-S 55-250?
The idea is to avoid the adapter altogether.And if you also replace the 50mm with the Sigma 56, you don't need to carry the adapter. Sorry, but I can't take the decisions for you.
I am thinking: 11-22 + 22/2 + 32/1.4 + 56/1.4 + 18-150/f 3.5-6.3
Yes, and if my M6Ii breaks, and I can't find another one, I'll still have all the many thousands of pictures I took with it (and my M6 and M). Things change. Nothing lasts forever. Even the universe will eventually die a heat death. Cheery thought, eh?Oh common, you will find a body on the used market, don't worry.and it is a great travel kit if the body doesn't break and they don't discontinue m!That’s the kit I take with my M6II when traveling.If I replace the EF-S 55-250 with an EF-M 55-250 and replace the EF 50/1.4 with the Sigma 56/1.4 then add a Canon 32/1.4, I'd end up with a kit that weighs about the same.
Canon M50 is 390 gms
Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM 220 gms
Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM 260 gms
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0 105 gms
Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM 130 gms
Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM 235 gms
Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN 280gms
If I add a Sigma 16/1.4, I'd have to choose between carrying it or the 56 1/4 + 22/2.
I think the EF-M might be worth it if I am discarding the adapter altogether.
That's why we have experts like you.You are asking difficult questions.
This might be the best combination.
I could replace the EF-M 15-45 and the EF-S 55-250 with the EF-M 18-150. I think 150mm might give me all the reach I need.
How does the 18-150 compare with the EF-M 15-45, EF-M 55-200 and EF-S 55-250?
The idea is to avoid the adapter altogether.And if you also replace the 50mm with the Sigma 56, you don't need to carry the adapter. Sorry, but I can't take the decisions for you.
I am thinking: 11-22 + 22/2 + 32/1.4 + 56/1.4 + 18-150/f 3.5-6.3
And those are good. I'm still happy with all the pictures the M50 produced for me. Worth the money for sure.
maybe for some folks that is the caseOh common, you will find a body on the used market, don't worry.and it is a great travel kit if the body doesn't break and they don't discontinue m!That’s the kit I take with my M6II when traveling.If I replace the EF-S 55-250 with an EF-M 55-250 and replace the EF 50/1.4 with the Sigma 56/1.4 then add a Canon 32/1.4, I'd end up with a kit that weighs about the same.
Canon M50 is 390 gms
Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM 220 gms
Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM 260 gms
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0 105 gms
Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM 130 gms
Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM 235 gms
Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN 280gms
If I add a Sigma 16/1.4, I'd have to choose between carrying it or the 56 1/4 + 22/2.
I think the EF-M might be worth it if I am discarding the adapter altogether.
That's why we have experts like you.You are asking difficult questions.
This might be the best combination.
I could replace the EF-M 15-45 and the EF-S 55-250 with the EF-M 18-150. I think 150mm might give me all the reach I need.
How does the 18-150 compare with the EF-M 15-45, EF-M 55-200 and EF-S 55-250?
The idea is to avoid the adapter altogether.And if you also replace the 50mm with the Sigma 56, you don't need to carry the adapter. Sorry, but I can't take the decisions for you.
I am thinking: 11-22 + 22/2 + 32/1.4 + 56/1.4 + 18-150/f 3.5-6.3
