Re: I'm waiting for the R7 MK2
Zeee wrote:
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Chris Wolfgram wrote:
charlyw64 wrote:
and only list this because you need to be negative about something. I have used the 7DII for 8 years (got one on the day of the initial release) and never have used it without additional weather gear because not all of my lenses are weather sealed and those that are were bought mostly second hand and thus I have no knowledge how well their gaskets have been maintained. Thus there is a big gaping hole in the sealing...Have you seen the videos of Wild Alaska? He was using the R5 alongside the R7 on one trip in atrocious weather and the weather sealed R5 conked out first IIRC.
Compared to the mirror slap of the 7DII the shutter shock in the R7 is minute
Now wait a minute ! So your telling me, the 7D II has such crazy mirror slap, that it might knock the camera straight out of your hands, and scare wildlife on the other side of the forest ?!?! .... because it would really "have to" to be any worse than the R7 !
I can use them side by side, the mirror slap of the 7DII is more pronounced and louder than the R7 full mechanical shutter and you can easily use the EFCS to reduce that without incurring the wrath of the rolling shutter, the bokeh effect of the EFCS doesn't bother me at all.
I find that hard to believe. I owned the original 7D, and although it's been a while, I don't think it was near as loud and shocking as the R7 in MS mode.
The 7D is worse still - picked up my wife's 7D and compared side by side the order is 7D, 7DII and then R7. Memory is tainted by it's gradual decay, you never had the direct comparison and you never were treated to the ES silence...
with its mirror locked up the 7DII's shutter sound at 10fps is, to my ear, much 'softer' (less high frequency "clack") than the R7's harsh mech shutter at 15fps.
It probably is. I don't have my 7DII anymore, and never shot it with the mirror locked up. Shooting like that isn't really an option for most action or wildlife shooting, except maybe some wildlife shooting on a tripod. For most uses of the 7DII, what's relevant is what it sounds like in OVF mode. Whether it's the mirror or the shutter that's responsible for most of the noise isn't really relevant, if it's the actual volume of the noise that bothers people (or birds). If we're talking about shutter shock, on the other hand, it might be relevant, depending on whether the mirror slap also produces the same kind of effect.
my point was that the 7DII’s shutter sound (not shutter plus mirror action) seems to be softer than the R7’s mechanical shutter
It is and does not vibrate as much.
Peter
When put side by side, the 7D2 is louder and has a stronger vibration from mirror slap than the mechanical shutter of the R7, use the live view on the 7D2 and it is much more silent and has little vibration - as now it is using EFCS. So now you need to put the R7 into that mode (you would be well advised to use that anyways, the mechanical shutter only is needed for extremely fast lenses wide open to preserve their bokeh) and there is little difference!