Fujifilm X-T3 vs Canon 5D Mark IV, bokeh @ 50mm, f/1.4 (equiv.)

DominikT wrote:

WeirdSheep wrote:

DominikT wrote:

WeirdSheep wrote:

DominikT wrote:

These are good examples. But unless Fuji Bring out a 35mm f0.95 Auto focus lens, we won’t have an exact equivalent, to be able to say “ FF doesn’t matte”. Because we see in your test, it does matter, when you want shallow depth of field and auto focus. You just won’t get it with a crop censor.

Well that's not exactly true, you forgot the clarifying comment of 'at 35mm with autofocus'. You can get shallow dof very easily on APS-C, with AF, with plenty of lenses, so it's not exactly an issue for most people, especially as manual focus isn't exactly difficult these days.

I’m not sure you get my point. Yes you could use for example the Fuji 56 f1.2 to get the same depth of field as a 50mm 1.4 on full frame. But you’ll need to move way back. You can’t stand the same distance as with the 50mm on FF. I like to shoot with a 35 50 and 85mm on full frame. So I’m always looking at the equivalent on the Fuji crop sensor. And unfortunately there just aren’t any. Or they’re so big, there is no point in having the APSC system then, as you get the same thing with a smaller FF lens.

No l do get your point, firstly there are manual focus lenses that do what you want, but you want AF, but then the lenses are too big for you, so just use FF and be done with it, problem solved. I could pick any format and come up with a similar scenario, they're all compromises one way or another, that's life l'm afraid.

I’m not trying to start anything here. I love my X-Pro2 and have sold off my canon gear because the Fuji system is more fun to use, with its manual dials and rings. It brings me closer to the film experience.

However, what gets me is when people say that FF has no advantage over APSC. To me it does. Because you can get a 50mm 1.2 AF lens now for all the FF systems, but you can’t get a 35 f0.95 lens with AF for Fuji. Nor a 23mm one. And zoom lenses are even worse, nothing below f2.8 for Fuji. Which is an f4 on FF.

Yes there are MF third party lenses, the Voigtlander lenses look amazing, and I don’t mind using manual focus, (I have two vintage lenses I use very often on my Fuji) however, a lot of these lenses are just very soft wide open, almost to the point that you need to stop down to at least f2.8 to get a decent image.

I certainly never said FF has no advantages over APS-C, both formats have advantages and disadvantages. The problem is when people complain one format can't do something the other can, well that's a given when you compare any format to another. The key is to pick the right format for you based on which compromises you're prepared to accept and which ones you aren't, it's really that simple as far as I'm concerned.