R7 from my car ?! What the heck ?!?!

Ephemeris wrote:

Alastair Norcross wrote:

Ephemeris wrote:

Alastair Norcross wrote:

Chris Wolfgram wrote:

JustUs7 wrote:

100% electronic shutter with a slow read speed for the R7 seems explanatory enough without any pictures attached showing what constitutes terrible.

What I don’t get is why people post questions like this without at least testing like shooting conditions first to determine if that might be the issue. Switch to mechanical shutter on the R7 and see if it’s better. Or at least EFCS if trying to avoid shutter shock

Impo, the R7 is practically useless in Mechanical Shutter mode. I’ve heard a few people say it imparts some amount of shutter shake at practically ALL shutter speeds, and in my brief trial of MS, that seems to be true. If I need to shoot something with MS, I’ll use my R5.

I’ve shot thousands of shots in EFCS (why would you use full mechanical?) with my R7, and not a single one had any trace of shutter shock.-

For this scenario (I'm not clear exactly what it is but can guess) what advantages exist for Mechanical and what negatives are there for ECFS.

The only negative I’ve ever heard about for EFCS is the possibility of cut-off bokeh with very wide apertures (F1.8 or faster) at very fast shutter speeds. I presume that the OP was shooting birds from a car with a lens slower than F1.8, so this wouldn’t apply here.

As it happens I often shoot Mechanical on the R5 but that may purely be to have feedback the shot was taken at the moment of button press (noise).

EFCS gives the same feedback. It’s e-shutter that doesn’t make a noise (unless you set the camera to give you a noise, which you can do with the latest Canons).

Thanks Alistair. With the R5 mechanical gives me a more noticeable noise and ECFS feels like it's very damped.

That's said I will spend this week using ECFS only to see if my brain is happy with the new (noise)

I couldn't remember writing this but I think the R5 (and other Rf cameras) keeps with the higher 14 bit colour bit depth. Is that correct?

I think we still have 1/8000th available in first curtain (not sure if the R3 is faster still).

I did find this which has some evidential commentary.

https://photographylife.com/mechanical-electronic-shutter-efcs

So, to keep my 14 bits, reduce shutter shake but learn to enjoy the dull noise I will benefit by using ECFS.

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Another thing to be aware of is that the full electronic shutter mode, while faster and silent, can result in bad artifacts under some types of artificial lighting.  We’re still a generation or two away from electronic shutter that has no disadvantages… which is not to say you should never use it.