Moving from Canon M system

Laqup wrote:

If you get the R8 + 24-240 (414g + 750g), you can pretty much replace:

Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0
Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM
Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM

with a single lens. Of course with the execption of the tele range beyond 240mm.

In pure terms of "optical output" the zoom will be somewhat similar to the 22 f/2.0 that is actually an 35 f/3.2 in FF terms (only image look, for exposure f/2.0 is f/2.0, to be clear!)

Wide angle can be covered with the Canon RF 15-30mm (390g) or RF 16mm f/2.8 (165g), and the EF-M 32mm is logically replaced by the RF 50mm 1.8 (160g).

R8 + RF 24-240 + RF 16 + RF 50 will net you a total of 1489g.

Of course all of this is a trade-off. The R8 will be much more capable and the better body compared to the R50, but you have to lug around more weight "in hand" in combination with those FF lenses and you gain some volume. On the other side, the zoom gives you additional creative possibilities (as f/4.0 - f/6.3 cleary outperforms f/3.5 -f/6.3 on APS-C in the overlapping range) with the 50mm not being an exception (50mm 1.8 will yield shallower depth of field than 32mm 1.4). Build quality and some of the optical attributes of the 32mm 1.4 might be better though. Overall image quality will probably be slightly better, as the 15-45 and 55-200 are nothing to write home about (allthough performance of the 55-200 is solid for it's size and volume).

From my point of view I would not "rebuy" all of those to a certain degree similar RF-S lenses (yes I know that there are slight differences to EF-M) but I would rather try to seek an actual solid upgrade. If it has to be APS-C due to weight limitations I would not hesitate to buy a fuji body. The APS-C RF bodies are either sold as "complementary" to their bigger brothers (e.g. R7 for wildlife) or meant as some kind of "affordable bait" to lure you into the RF fullframe system (R50, R10) and to have an upgrade path. I see no clear intention from Canon to actually put out a full fledged RF-S system, this will probably be similar to the EF-M system, aka 1-2 new lenses per year and a few body upgrades in between.

This certainly seems like the way Canon operates. Sony doesn't seem to be doing anything with their apsc lineup either, wich is inferior to Canon in a number of ways and sorely need redesign.

The goal here is basically weight/bulk reduction. I've looked at Fuji a number of times and did not feel switching to Fuji accomplished that goal. Fuji has other issues too, like supply chain problems and a focus system that continues to fall behind the leaders. The lenses, some of which are very good, are bulkier than Canon and Tamron apsc. I decided rather than switching to Fuji, I'd rather just carry my R5 as there are sufficient lightweight RF lenses to choose from. In the end, for hiking and when travelling I'm sticking with the M6 mkii and Olympus kits for now.

Traveling to Europe this summer I'll be quite content these days with a three lens kit on my M6ii, the 11-whatever wide andle zoom, a fast prime, and the 18-150 zoom. If I can't get good pictures with that, then I stink at photography.