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Moving from Canon M system

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axlotl Senior Member • Posts: 2,273
Re: Moving from Canon M system

navinadvani wrote:

Now that Canon has decided not to support the M system, I am considering moving from it.

The options are to move to Canon's R system or another company (Fuji / Sony).

The overall weight of the system is an essential consideration. My current M system (total weight of <1.4kg) includes the following:

Canon M50 (24MP) - 390 gms
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0 - 105gm
Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM - 220gms (my primary lens)
Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM - 235gms
Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM - 130gms
Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM - 260gms

I want the new system not to exceed 1.5kg (with 3 zoom lenses and 2 primes) and hopefully weigh less than my current system. Additionally, I prefer a body with an EVF (which almost eliminates the Sony ZVE10). Fuji does not have a lightweight lens like the Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM, Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM or even the Sony E 10-20mm F4 PZ G.

I also use a 50/1.4, which works as a portrait lens, but I don't carry this everywhere as it is very bulky and heavy with the EF to EFM adapter. I'd have to add a Fujifilm XF 50mm F2 R WR or a Sony FE 55mm F1.8 ZA to compensate for this lens.

Option 1: 1.5 kg

Canon EOS R50 - 375 gms
Canon RF 16mm F2.8 STM - 165 gms
Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM - 240 gms
Canon RF 35mm F1.8 IS STM Macro - 305 gms
Canon RF-S 18-45mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM - 130 gms
Canon RF-S 55-210mm F5.0-7.1 IS STM - 270 gms

Option 2: 1.4 kg but no EVF

Sony ZV-E10 - 343 gms
Sony E 15mm F1.4 G - 219 gms
Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS - 225 gms
Sony E 35mm F1.8 OSS - 155 gms
Sony E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS - 116 gms
Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS - 345 gms

I could save 140 gms by replacing the 15/1.4 with the Sony E 16mm F2.8 Pancake (78 gms).

Option 3: 1.6kg, so over my 1.5kg threshold

Fujifilm X-T200 - 370 gms
Fujifilm XF 18mm F2 R - 116 gms
Fujifilm XF 10-24mm F4 R OIS - 385 gms
Fujifilm XF 35mm F1.4 R - 187 gms
Fujifilm XC 15-45mm F3.5-5.6 OIS PZ - 136 gms
Fujifilm XC 50-230mm F4.5-6.7 OIS - 375 gms

I could save about 100 gms by replacing the 35/1.4 with the XF 27mm f/2.8 Pancake.

Should I stick with Canon? If so, should I get the R50 or the R10 (which is a little bigger/heavier)? Or should I continue with my M system till it dies?

If I shift, I'd have the following (in addition to my above system) to offer as a trade-in. These items have not been used since 2019 but have been serviced by Canon annually (every May).

Canon 77D body

Canon EF 28mm f/1.8
Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS
Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 IS
Canon EF 100mm f/2
Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro
Canon EF-S 18-55 4-5.6 IS STM
Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5
Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS

If you think I should continue with the M system, what should I trade in the above 77D-based system for?

Thanks.

Hi, I have been through this process and offer the following suggestions.

* On reviewing the currect offerings and almost certain upcoming RF-S lenses I have assessed the Canon RF-S system as the best option.

* The R10 is excellent:  highly recommended. Much better specified than the R50 for not much more money or mass. Also much better then the EOS M50.

* On my tests the RF 16mm delivers soft edges on the R10- not recommended.

* The kit which I have and recommend is

R10  426 g

RF-S 18-150  310 g  My two copies of this are much better than my two copies of the EF-M version.  Better assembly ?  Whatever the reason the new version is really good.

Don't bother with the RF-S 18-45mm. It's not a bad lens, I have it but the 18-150 is just better at all focal lengths and also very good for close-ups. Very versatile.

Expect the EF-M  22 f2 to appear in RF-S form soon Recommended. 105g

Expect the EF-M 11-22m to appear in RF-S form soon also  220 g

You can add the RF-S 55-210 but if ultrawide is your main lens the long zoom could be one to omit.

Mass is 1331g with the RF-S 55-210mm, 1061 g without the 55-210.

Obviously two of those lenses have not come onto the market yet but Canon would be crazy not to release RF-S versions and they are not crazy.

So my suggection is: For now get the R10 in a kit with the RF-S 18-150 and get familiar with that gear. It is highly capable, I use it frequently even though I have R5 and FF gear.

Then build up the RF-S lenses as they come along.

Good luck Andrew

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