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New to Canon R7

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MarshallG
MarshallG Veteran Member • Posts: 8,951
Re: New to Canon R7
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John Photo wrote:

MarshallG wrote:

Distinctly Average wrote:

MarshallG wrote:

You’ll need to walk through these settings using a YouTube video or someone with some experience. Of course, you don’t just want to enter the settings, you need to understand them.

The Canon setting menus go from left to right. There are tabs with subgroups beneath them. The last tab is a Custom Menu tab, which you add individual items to for faster access.

The summary of what you want to do is set the camera to shoot RAW or cRAW images at a high frame rate with continuous autofocus. Canon calls continuous AF “Servo AF.” They just recently introduced a feature called “Continuous AF” and you do NOT want that; it’s for video and it will kill your battery.

So you want Servo AF and you generally want to use Eye AF, configured to track Animals not Humans. So we tuck the “Human/Animal/Objects” setting into the Custom Menu area, in case you want to photograph a human.

There is an AF menu area which lets you configure an AF “Case.” This takes some time to set up and get comfy with; it pertains to how “sticky” the autofocus is on a subject and whether it tries to guess where the subject will go next. Long discussion possible there…

With the camera set for Eye Detection AF, what most action photographers do is reconfigure the Shutter release button so that its half-press is only a Meter On, and NOT Meter/AF On. There is an AF-On button at the top back which you’ll hold down to start and stop Autofocus. And there’s a menu where you configure all that.

Next to the AF-ON button there is a * button, and you’ll configure that button as a custom AF-ON which uses object detection instead of Eye Detection. Let’s say you’re in the forest and you see a pretty flower. Your camera won’t focus on it correctly because the flower does not have any eyes to detect. So you nudge your thumb over to the * button, hold it, and standard AF starts up, like your old Nikon, without the Eye Detection.

One other thing: For the very fastest frame rate, and silent shooting, you can configure the camera for fully electronic shutter. Most people don’t use this mode, because on R7 it produces rolling shutter effects which distort fast-moving wings and legs. Instead, set up Electronic First Curtain Shutter, which is electronic shutter to start the exposure but a shutter curtain ends the exposure, so no motion is recording to the sensor while the camera reads out the sensor. This is another item I keep in the Custom Menu, in case I want a perfectly silent shutter.

That should get you started.

I think a lot still do use ES., It is more of a case of learning when it might fail. Even then it is sometimes better to have failures with some good shots as the tracking is easier in full ES, at least it is easier for me with many subjects.

Look, you can argue that every setting I recommended should be done the opposite way. Of course. Canon didn’t give the camera settings which don’t work. You can use the camera any way you want, that’s for sure. But for a first time setup I do not recommend electronic shutter, because it can produce very noticeable artifacts. Besides that, 30 fps is a lot of images to cull.

Don't be so defensive. He made a valid point....as was your original suggestion.

But… the artifacts are very bad.  And I’ve seen some indoor wedding shoots with ES which came out horribly because lighting flicker made very bad, unfixable artifacts.  These cameras don’t have global shutters and ES simply won’t give consistently good results.

I read Nina Bailey’s book and she makes the same observations: ES has two advantages: Very high frame rate for sports/wildlife, and silent operation for indoor events, such as weddings.  But she points out that ES can produce unusable photos under both of those circumstances. So I will not recommend to a new owner to set the camera up like that and if someone claims otherwise, I will point out the pitfalls.

I think we will need to wait for an R7 Mark II or Mark III until we will have a full-time electronic shutter, and when we do, good chance there will no longer be a mechanical shutter.

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