Advice for an Hobbyist jumping to Full Frame

MAC wrote:

Steve Balcombe wrote:

Solinthor wrote:

Hi

I have the budget to buy the EOS R8 and the RF 24-105 f/4 L IS USM.

This would be a great choice. But in another post you said you buy a camera once every ten years, and that makes me think it would be worth stretching to the R6 Mark II if you possibly can. It really is a lot more camera, for the reasons that others have already explained. The extra cost isn't that much spread over ten years!

Yes indeed, but also as an Hobbyist, is it not better to invest in glass than body?

This advice is often repeated, but I think that's in large part because it's easy to state and resonates with people. The reality is more complicated.

Things have moved on since the days when image quality depended on the film and the lens, with the body playing little more than a supporting role. Digital SLRs and now mirrorless system cameras are much more complex, and they have much more impact on the both the image quality and the success rate. The decision you make today between the R8 and the R6II will affect your photography for the whole of those ten years.

I'm not suggesting for one moment that the choice of lens is any less important than it always was - just that the importance of the body is much greater than it once was.

as a hobbyist though, where Canon put some thought into features that a hobbyist would want/need.

does the op really need to spend $1000 more for R6II features?

Does a hobbyist need dual card slots - my advice is no, just use well-known reliable cards.

Does the hobbyist need IBIS when they are planning to buy a great RF 24-105 F4 L with IS with the tight funds saved from not buying R6II? Well, I've been using this lens with IS for three years and not once have I missed IBIS.

Does a hobbyist love smaller sized gear for travel -- yes indeed

Many cameras offer features that the hobbyist will never use

Glass still rules imo, don't short change and do get that L

Ah, no, you're misrepresenting what I said, especially the part I've marked in bold which you conveniently ignored.

I didn't attempt to tell the OP whether they needed IBIS or dual card slots or any other feature - only that they shouldn't let their judgement be clouded by the "Glass rules" mantra, because the body is important too.