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“I don’t believe Fujifilm are producing [film] now”
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Trevor Sowers
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I have been worried about that for a while now. I grabbed 10 rolls ( I think) of Vevia 50 and put them in my freezer.
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I don’t really use Fujifilm film, so it’s never been an issue for me, but with black and white film allegedly made by Ilford under a Fujifilm label and colour film made by Kodak, it’s becoming obvious that something’s not quite right
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As much as i like the Japan Camera Hunter, aka Bellamy Hunt, i get fresh Superia 400 Film from Fujifilm - so i think, this is a rumor to frighten ppl somehow.....
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That is mentioned in the video. If the film is frozen in a massive freezer then it only gets a date from the point when it’s defrosted and put in the cassette, so it will be fresh (I.e. long dated)
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Are you sure about that? Fogging can still occur with a frozen master roll. If it sits for years frozen, it still ages and I doubt any company would call at year old master roll fresh.
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I’m repeating what’s mentioned in the video, you’d really need to see what he says. But as I understand it fogging depens on film speed and background radiation. According to Fujifilm’s UK website ( https://www.fujifilm.com/uk/en/consumer/films/negative-and-reversal ) they do nothing faster than ISO400 - whereas Ilford and Kodak both do films they sell as ISO3200 films
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When Fuji discontinued 400H I think I read they had 120 stock that would be available for some time (~12 months) but they discontinued 35mm almost immediately. It seems unlikely they would keep a vast frozen stock of films they might continuously produce, other than a limited amount as a contingency.
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I understand that….but a master roll that sits for years is not fresh when it has been thawed. Kodak used to discuss how they couldn’t keep producing master rolls in the old volumes because they would expire before they could be shipped for sale. This contradicts what this video seems to claim. I would trust Kodak’s thoughts on this more than this video. Kodak says they could expire sitting in freeze…and this video claims the opposite.
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Wrong again, sorry to say. I got it from Fotoimpex, and it's not what you think. Fujifilm doesn't do it this way, Acros II is also being (still) produced. One of my fave films. Anyway, i am not going to argue with you further - you guys always think you're right, the greater wrong of the right. I had info from a distributor. Talk is cheap. ppl talk a lot of sh*t, to get attention, over the web, on the net, into unsocial networks, YT, FaceBlob, Sh*tTok, InstaCr@p or whatever. I tell you only the info, that i've received. I am not seeking, -looking for attention, like many guys hereby, especially on DPR, or onto the Web. I have my own opinion, and always stand my ground, after aquiring info about topic xyz on the web.
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I think there was some speculation when it was released in 2019 that Neopan Acros was being made in the UK somehow because people posted photos of "made in the UK" on the box. I think Ilford denied that it was their own film re-branded, but they didn't say if they were somehow involved in its manufacture.
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From my understanding of the “theory” - Fujifilm no longer have any capacity to make film (other than Instax). Fujifilm (at a company level) have no long term interest in still making film, apart from Instax, indeed most of their money doesn’t come from photography at all. Years ago they made lots of film which is now stored in enormous freezers and is being sold until each stock runs out (or is below some threshold through which it is marketable - so still with no excess fog etc). There is stock in these freezers to last many years.
This “theory” has been circulating for quite some time, but Bellamy Hunt is probably the most highest profile person to have come out in support of it.
I don’t think anyone thinks this would be ideal if Fujifilm wanted to remain in the film business, but (the theory goes) they don’t have capacity to remain in the business, and this is the best of a bad job.
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And similarly that Fujifilm 200 is rebranded Kodak Gold 200 ( https://www.dpreview.com/news/38624...ebranded-kodak-gold-200-is-sure-looks-like-it )
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I think the idea is that they’re not producing any more film, all they have is what’s in the freezers.
(of course these freezers could well have a heat signature you can see from space if they're that big
)Yes, note that it is just Fujifilm 200 not C200.
You can see Made In USA printed on the box (second to last line) :
Note the different packaging and film canister
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Yes , indeed someone in the UK is making it, I don't think Fujifilm has film plants in the UK.
BTW, Ilford already had made the Neopan 400 CN for Fuji
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Trevor Sowers
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I don't use much in Fuji's lineup either other than Velvia 50! Losing Velvia would be a loss to colour film shooters as there is nothing else being made that is quite like it.
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