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David Hull
David Hull Veteran Member • Posts: 6,831
Re: Someone says ...
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Klaus dk wrote:

Jozef M wrote:

What if someone says to you: 'Canon is too expensive, camera bodies and lenses, and no third party lenses ...'

Jozef.

Someone says it all the time, so there's nothing new in that, but it's not as straightforward as it may seem. And the R system seems to be selling quite well, so maybe not everyone agrees.

"Expensive" is a relative term. I agree some Canon products cost more money than I'm willing to spend, but I don't agree that they're too expensive. Some competing products have marginally better specs, and lower prices, but specs aren't everything, and UX is one of the things that sets Canon apart from other manufacturers.

Well put.

Another thing is, that with a Canon R system, all things play well together and that is also worth paying for, IMHO.

As long as my needs are covered by native RF lenses, I see no need for third party RF lenses. RF-S lenses clearly places APS-C as an entry-level tier, and I think it's a shame. It seems Canon has abandoned that market segment, perhaps because they don't want to cannibalise their FF market. I assume Canon is better at assessing their market than I am, but I suppose they could open the RF protocol to third parties if they saw an advantage in doing so.

Same for me. I would probably feel differently if there was some third-party lens that I felt I really needed, but Canon pretty much has me covered. I do mostly travel stuff these days. A 24-105 L F4 and a 15-35 L K2.8 are all I carry with my R5. I have the older R and a second 24-105 as backup.  Thats all I ever take.

FWIW: If you like APSC, there is nothing stopping you from using "L" lenses that were designed for full frame. I would think that you will have better photos since the photo area occupies the sweet spot of the lens. Unfortunately, there is the added cost and weight of the "L" stuff. We went through this with the EF-S series, they never put an "L" on any of them, but some were quite nice. The EF-S 10-22 for example.

R cameras apply digital lens correction for RF lenses to the VF and live view feed in real time, and also to both jpeg and raw files when shooting. If the same should apply to third party lenses, who's going to be responsible for flaws in that process?

It's been quite normal to see Sony cameras perform in unexpected ways regarding vignetting correction of third-party lenses. By restricting access to the RF protocol, Canon has avoided that.

Good luck and good light.

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Canon EOS R Canon EF 100mm F2.8L Macro IS USM Canon RF 35mm F1.8 IS STM Macro Canon RF 24-105mm F4L IS USM Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM +1 more
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