Re: R8-no ibis vs. R6 MKll - Ibis
MikeJ9116 wrote:
sportyaccordy wrote:
MikeJ9116 wrote:
IMO, the R8 is a camera designed and priced to bring people from DSLRs and other brands into the Canon ecosystem. It will probably even bring some Fuji users to Canon. For me it has taken buying into Fuji or Canon for APS-C off the table and staying with Canon for FF only. IMO, the only thing that is strange about the R8 is that Canon released an incredibly capable, small, lightweight camera that they didn't gimp much at a very attractive price point.
I respect your opinion, but disagree. I mean maybe that was Canon's intention, but I don't think the R8 is a big gamechanger for the RF system/user base. Canon RF is 5 years old now I think.... I'd wager if anyone hasn't moved over by now, odds are extremely high they never will.
I def don't see this luring Fuji users over either. Yes the R8 has better AF & marginally better IQ, but beyond that, for someone in that ~$3-4K system budget Fuji X is substantially better value, with better affordable lens selection, IBIS, the list goes on and on. Only thing this has over the R7 IMO is sensor size and lens selection, but Canon did the bare minimum with EF-S lens wise and seems keen to maintain that tradition with RF-S.
Obviously it's not a bad camera; there's no such thing in 2023 in this price range....... but it's definitely no slam dunk or head and shoulders easy choice in the marketplace.
I don't think the R8 is going to bring a horde of users (APS-C or FF) from other brands. It will bring some though. The main purpose of the R8, IMO, is to keep the Canon base in the fold. It will entice a lot of Canon DSLR users, and likely a number of Nikon DSLR users, to buy it. I am a perfect example of this. I have been wanting to move from an APS-C Canon DSLR for a number of years. I waited Canon out till they finally have offered three APS-C models. I was heavily tilting to Fuji and decided to wait until this latest announcement was out. The R8 was something I didn't expect from Canon. They nearly always gimp a budget model in a way that completely turns me off but this wasn't the case with the R8. They actually gave it the best of the R6/2 and gimped on things that didn't matter all that much. The R8 can do over 90% of what the R6/2 can do. It has the same sensor, AF, ES frame rates, video specs (minus HDMI RAW out), etc.
The R8 comes in at a $1k lower price point than the R6 and the cost is some lower specs that doesn't impact me all that much. In return, I can apply that $1k saved and get two RF lenses I have been wanting. I also don't have to spend money on a separate APS-C system because the R8 is very small and lightweight and can utilize some small and lightweight RF/EF lenses. Plus, I have all the benefits of shooting a FF camera. It didn't take me more than thirty minutes to realize the R8 covered all my bases and simplified the kit I will be shooting with going forward. I don't think I am alone in having this epiphany. I think a lot of Canon DSLR users will have the same response. The R8 is Canon's Swiss army knife of camera bodies. Name another FF camera maker that can tough the R8 for the price. It has better AF ability than the R3! While Canon left out some peripheral features with the R8 it hit the bullseye regarding its core capabilities. As time goes on I think it will be a very important camera for Canon and its user base. It will also bring a few new people into the fold from other brands as a bonus.
Fair assessment. It's not for me, but that doesn't mean it won't work for anybody. It's just a strangely specced camera to me.