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The next Foveon camera?

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Scottelly
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Re: A couple of points and then I'll run

tarmov wrote:

abera wrote:

JPG compression results are hardly a good measuring metric of anything. Not only it's not meant for that, but also there are too many unknown variables. Not all encodings are created equal.

One can convert from raw (in SPP) to tiff to png. The conclusion would still support my argument, not yours.

More importantly since image processing is involved the results will tell even less about the image sensor itself, more about differences in processing the data.

One can apply minimum processing in SPP before export.

And my conclusion still stands: the Foveon extra information is real, not imaginary. Within specific circumstances (usage scenarios), of course - given enough light.

The subjective impact of extra noise is subjective - some eyes are better and some brains can better impute some noise to its liking.

Which brings us to the cruz of the differences in opinion: you believe that the Foveon market niche is too small to be sustainable in the long run, while most of the Sigma forum participants (and the CEO of Sigma) think otherwise.

-Tarmo

I agree, and for all we know, what was holding many photographers back from Foveon in the past was the need to make a commitment to a lens system that would be useless if they didn't like the results they were getting from their new camera with the Foveon sensor. Sigma did address this when they made an afapter to use those lenses with Sony E mount cameras, but that was quite late in the game.

Now that Sigma uses the L mount that barrier is gone, and even people with a Panasonic or Leica L mount camera can choose to buy the FFF, and use their current L mount lenses. For all we know, the FFF could end up selling better than any previous camera with a Foveon sensor (even with its higher price tag).

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