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Canon R50 or M50 Mark II
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Dareshooter
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Just looked at the specs on Canons site and there is no highlight alert provided so anyone using the histogram will need to know how to interpret the info.
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SW Anderson
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" (I remember being told exactly that by the head of CIG at a briefing when I was TUPE'd to Canon from Oce over 10 years ago. . ."
Ahem, :-O there's some acronyms and/or jargon there I don't understand.
I would hate to see Canon drop out of the camera industry. The company is capable of making some great cameras and lenses; it's been a top brand going way back to the 1930's and 1940's, at least. I just got through reading something to the effect Sony has pulled ahead of Canon in photo gear sales.
I think Canon is at risk here, creating a gap some enterprising competitor might just step in to fill. A gap that could be characterized as the new EOS M7 by another name from another manufacturer, with it's own lens mount, of course, but also with an AF lens adapter for M lenses. That, along with some new lenses and accessories, of course.
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For me, the biggest disappoint with R50 is the 2 kit lenses. Less FL and slower the the lenses packaged with Rebel cameras. Not a good combo. Consistent IQ is unknown as well. The M kit lens was very variable.
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IQ wise it is a downgrade ?
Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM Lens Image Quality
View the image quality delivered by the Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM Lens using ISO 12233 Resolution Chart lab test results. Compare the image quality of this lens with other lenses.
www.the-digital-picture.com
Canon started the RF mount claiming FF dominance
now APSC cameras are showing up as an afterthought.
the R6II and R8 will rule the roost.
except for maybe R7 with long lenses, skip buying anymore APSC
The R10 - now discounted to £799 in UK is a bargain for those who want top of the current range AF and frames per second in either craw or jpeg and good ergonomics. The R8 is far more expensive - double. R10 with either adapted ef 10-18 or if we are lucky refs 11-22 coming - plus 18-150 - throw in a 85 f/2 or adapted 60 2.8 plus 100-400 of some type - or Efs 55-250 will make a lot of sense for many people. R7 yes is better other than ergonomics than R10 - but does not for stills at least radically better it. R8 and R6ii are neither cheap nor keep up with Nikon or Sony for resolution.
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I own the R6II. It is a great camera and I am sure the R8 will also be. But they are both large and expensive (and it gets even worse when you include a lens) in comparison to an M camera. They belong to a completely different category. And I think it is rather off topic to start discussing FF cameras in this forum.
That is also a much too large camera for people who really love the small size of the M cameras and lenses.
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you finally bit the larger FF bullet
R8 form factor smaller
https://bit.ly/3Xn065tclick here to close this window
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but it gets expensive also when you are an enthusiast (like those that frequent these forums) and you start buying a bag full of primes because they don't ive you a bright zoom
and then you've spent all that money and finally do what you did, buy FF
the category you are referring to is newbie camera, 1 kit lens
these forums aren't filled with newbies
but the overall size is more when they don't give us a bright zoom for m and then folks are carrying a bag full of primes, where the size and even cost of my R8 ($1499) + RF 24-105 F4 ($899) will be less !!!
resultant resolution is a function of not just camera body, but camera body + lens
the R8 has better low light focus acquisition @ -6.5 EV @ f1.2 than many other camera bodies.
I had the 10-18 and gave it away and got the 11-22
for birding the R7 beats the R10. But I intend to use the R8 in e-shutter mode for action which has a read time that even beats the R5 and has less rolling shutter
to each their own, but I don't get the RF-s APSC crop formula for general photography, as an enthusiast, when M has the f1.4 lenses and Rf-s does not, and a powerful R8 is coming that will crush the APSc systems for enthusiasts in the long run.
and M will fade away
enthusiasts, like there are in these forums, will save in the long run with the R8
M4Mobility
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For a project. I might keep it or just sell it when finished.you finally bit the larger FF bullet
As you already know. You get far with just the 11-22mm and 32mm.R8 form factor smaller
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but it gets expensive also when you are an enthusiast (like those that frequent these forums) and you start buying a bag full of primes because they don't ive you a bright zoom
Nah. My R6II (or any other FF camera) can not replace my M cameras when hiking and walking around.
Huh ?????
Huh ?????
When did you last carry a bag full of primes? I have never done that.
ok, got itFor a project. I might keep it or just sell it when finished.you finally bit the larger FF bullet
yep, got it,As you already know. You get far with just the 11-22mm and 32mm.R8 form factor smaller
https://bit.ly/3Xn065tclick here to close this window
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but it gets expensive also when you are an enthusiast (like those that frequent these forums) and you start buying a bag full of primes because they don't ive you a bright zoom
but I also go far with the RF 24-105 F4L and will even go farther with the -6.5 EV R8
mine gets shared duty with my small FF
enthusiasts want more than a kit lens, and by the time they buy everything, the FF would have given them the zooms they grave
but for the last 17 years in biz, I have to carry complete systems, and my m system is adjunct, not a complete system
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The long run, that's not something in the mind of those who think RF aps-c is affordable.
How many topics here are starting with questions about which body to buy for highest quality, without showing any awareness that body could need anything else next to the kit lens if quality matters? The R50 is made to get the dollars of those customers.
+1 But the R10 when focal length limited is unlikely to lose the 1.6 advantage with a good lens
Yes it does - but not by a huge margin - as owner of both. Price difference not insignificant
OM systems doing very well and even smaller sensors - with pros and award winning photographers using it
Yes - that is a great feature of EFM - my M62 staying with me
It is far more expensive - and much bigger system needed for equiv reach in tele work. OM systems still doing very well on micro four thirds
Sadly yes
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I wonder if EF-M will gain a cult following.
Bryan did a great shot in SC at iso 100 in good light with ss 1/500 and the R50 + RF 85 F2 IS @ f2.8, the FF equivalent of ~135 fov f4.5
Canon EOS R50 and RF 85mm F2 IS Lens: Outstanding Portraits Made Affordable (the-digital-picture.com)
for the newbie enthusiast, they may say, hey look at what that can do for the lower price
...but they are being sucked in to gear that may wet their appetite, but then they get hungrier and hungrier to do more (low light) and more (BIF) and more (BBall), etc and find out they got sucked in to the wrong starting point, and could very well end up spending more to correct course...
IMO - the R8 is the right starting point for enthusiastic folks loving the craft.
YMMV
all good points, and I know you like yours, which says a lot, and I was surprised to see how well birdshooter7 did with it in his review on shooting wildlife with his great lenses,+1 But the R10 when focal length limited is unlikely to lose the 1.6 advantage with a good lens
Yes it does - but not by a huge margin - as owner of both. Price difference not insignificant
OM systems doing very well and even smaller sensors - with pros and award winning photographers using it
Yes - that is a great feature of EFM - my M62 staying with me
It is far more expensive - and much bigger system needed for equiv reach in tele work. OM systems still doing very well on micro four thirds
Sadly yes
on the other hand, for general shooting, I want to see RF-s F1.4 lenses before it gets my endorsement for general shooting
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