Canon R50 or M50 Mark II

KevinRA wrote:

thunder storm wrote:

Miamistars wrote:

Your advice would be greatly appreciated. So I’m in the market for a new Canon APSC camera.

I would get a used RP is budget is tight. Skip aps-c. It's a sensor size from the past.

Only if shallow depth of field at wide to normal angle in zooms is a priority - or very expensive f/1.2 primes float your boat. Or static landscapes / portraits and pixel peeping

If it's not about pixel peeping it's about phones. You and I know that's not the complete truth, however, I think marketing logic dictates aps-c cameras won't get good enough glass options to let those sensors really shine.  A used RP + a used EF 24-70mm f/4.0 IS USM can be found for as little as 1000 euro, maybe 1100. An R50 + slow 24-50mm will have a hard time to achieve the same sharpness levels.

combined with refusal to use DxO or Topaz for noise control.

If that's your hobby than spend your time on it.

RP is slow slow slow

That's o.k. for lot of purposes.

and poor dynamic range

refusal to do exposure bracketing?

with it as well. And not even considering AF…

As long as Canon doesn't come up with affordable RF-s f/2.8 USM lens options that fast AF of crop bodies doesn't mean anything in real life.

Only the R5 comes close in terms of reach -pixels per duck in telephoto work

That's R7 territory. And since there's the 800mm f/11 the R8 might do just as well.

with all but resorting to the most expensive great whites.

OM1 shows even smaller sensors can excel with professional users.

I almost pulled the trigger on the M50 Mark Ii and then the R50 was announced which is apparently a substantial upgrade from the M. I’m interested in street, travel, macro and family stills photography and on occasion do some video. I’m not a content creator or blogger. If the M50 takes good photos, has enough lenses for me to pick from and is cheaper, why would I even consider the R50? Thank you for your consideration.

Think about the lenses you need first, and when you've figured that out see what body you need to shoot with those lenses.

With the R50 there's no ef-m 32mm f/1.4 and no Sigma ef-m 56mm f/1.4. There's no compact 22mm. I doubt we will ever see an RF-s 22mm, and I'm sure we will never see RF-s versions of that 32mm and 56mm.

Likely true. Don’t buy based on hope and rumour only. Sony and OM Systems might be better way to go than RFS if needing lenses Canon don’t yet sell or are overpriced like the 24mm f/1.8:?

Glass is the Achilles heel of the RF crop cameras. The aperture is too dark for fast action on a crop body, or the AF of the lenses is too slow to unlock the full potential of those AF systems of those crop bodies. The RF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS USM will do fine, however, that's in another price segment for most customers shooting one crop body only.