R50 vs M50 MkII

m100 wrote:

Sittatunga wrote:

KevinRA wrote:

AMW20 wrote:

I just think it's sad Canon is abandoning the M mount after only 10 years and left M customers without an upgrade path.

True - but M cameras still function just as well as they did before - and lot of good quality used M cameras, EF-M lenses and of course EF lenses adapted....

I'm surprised so many here are planning to just upgrade to R and stay with Canon.

Very simple - EF lenses.

There are excellent EF lenses which fit both mounts especially well suited to RF larger cameras. It would cost me a fortune to sell off my Canon kit and buy Nikon or Sony to replace the lenses - yet the new features in the most modern R's are compelling - in a way the RP and R were not.

Lets not forget what Canon did in 1987 to the FD mount!! This is nothing in comparison.

I tend more to the cockup theory than malevolence. Canon tried to bring focus confirmation to FD mount with the AL-1, and AF to FD mount with the Heath-Robinson AC lenses. The last FD lens was launched in 1989, a year after its EF counterpart, but the last FD mount camera came in 1990. They just couldn't sell them when Minolta A mount and Canon EF mount did AF so well. And who remembers the EF-M camera, Canon's attempt to keep faith with manual focus on EF mount? So i don't think it's Canon trying to dump EF-M, it's the market doing that to them.

Canon's APS-C lenses were always incompatible with their FF cameras until RF mount came along and they had to do the automatic crop thing with EF-S lenses. That's why they optimised the EF-M mount for APS-C. Canon might have thought of making RF mount big enough and close ebbing to make it possible to adapt EF-M lenses when they introduced it, but I think they were too focussed in optimising it for 35mm format and were probably trying to preserve their EF lens line. They made big announcements at the time about APS-C and FF mirrorless cameras united by EF lenses and I think they meant it. The customers' abandonment of FD mount should have prepared them for what's happened to EF mount, but 35 years is a long time.

Very few lenses below 85mm focal length are suitable for both formats, and the RF ones that are (16mm/2.8, 35mm/1.8, 24mm/1.8, 50mm/1.8, 15-30mm/4.5-6, 24-50/4.5-6.3) tend to get reviled here.

Then the Canon EOS M and I had a Canon body that could mount the wonderful TS 35mm.

The used price for that body keeps going up.

https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/canon-eos-m

It seems to, last time I looked on mpb it was more expensive than the M10.

An M body alongside an EOS R body are a great pair to go with a TS or TS-E lens.  The R is getting very reasonably priced now too.