Is the RF 24-50mm a serious threat for crop RF camera's?

thunder storm wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

thunder storm wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

The R and RP lack the eye detection AF of the R10 and R50

There's eye detection available, albeit not at the same level when it comes to tracking at certain speeds. For posed portraits it's fine.

Yea I tried that when I still had the RP and I have to say that it was underwhelming.

I only have experience with the R, not the RP. With the R it focused fine, even with the 105mm f/1.4 Art wide open, as long as there's no fast movement.

How about when you were photographing birds and animals?

and that alone would make me pass on them at this point.

And which fast focusing shallow DOF lens would you choose for the R10 or R50 to benefit from those fancy eye tracking capabilities?

I use the RF 100-400 quite a bit with it and am extremely pleased.

That one doesn't have the max aperture to shoot action at decent high ISO noise levels on a crop camera.

So say you lol

My EF 500mm f/4L IS USM and EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM also work beautifully with it.

I believe you, but those lenses aren't in the same price segment as the bodies. When owning these lenses the R7 would be the natural choice I guess.

I just picked up the 300mm f/2.8L IS USM for $1100 back in December so not exactly a major budget buster.

After getting used to the eye-tracking offered by Digic X I really have no motivation to own any of the older cameras.

I get that, but when on a budget you don't have the lenses to benefit from fast eye tracking AF anyway.

It’s very obvious that we do very different types of photography what you are saying clearly isn’t anything like my experience.

Either the aperture is too dark for action on crop or the stm AF is too slow, and sometimes both.

This is one of those times when forum hype just falls apart in the face of actual experience.

The RP and especially the R will at least bump up the IQ with lenses like the 24-105mm stm or 35mm f/1.8 stm or even the 50mm stm at landscape apertures.

Have you actually used any of these newer cameras?

Slow AF, yes, but better IQ. With the R50 and R10 it's worse IQ, but still slow AF or too dark apertures for action on crop unless you're jumping to f/2.8 USM options. At that point - financially - the R8 + RF 24-240mm makes more sense imo, as that sensor can handle higher ISO values for shooting action making up for the dark aperture, while the USM AF unlocks the full potential of that Digic X processor.

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