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Can Canon AF do real time tracking of objects (not just faces,eyes,cars,animals etc)?

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AtmaWarna Regular Member • Posts: 119
Re: Can Canon AF do real time tracking of objects (not just faces,eyes,cars,animals etc)?
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Laqup wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

Laqup wrote:

and a teaching on how to do it differently and why this method is not relevant anyway. In my eyes the disrespectfulness is coming "from the other side" and his observation is spot on.

Well what relevant method do YOU use for shooting your landscapes?

R2

Try to think a bit outside the box. You are focusing very much on landscapes and "still lives".

The method the author describes is useful in general, without the focus on landscape. Read the initial post and you will see that first of all the method itself was described and only later landscape was mentioned as one example were the author is using this technique. But as you can also read in the initial post it can be used for "just about anything". So try to keep that in mind while suggesting different methods or before "condemning" the method. Think about the possibilities for various use cases.

For many years I was a "Canon only guy", I never used this method myself in the past, but since I got the Z6 and Z7 I discovered that this is a very viable and quick method of choosing the focus point and to my knowledge it can't be used with the same reliabilty on Canon bodys (at least not the ones I use) and it is one of the biggest low-lights of my EOS R5.

Just to give an example: Imagine a scene where you are shooting portraits. Your camera is not static / on a tripod but you are moving freely around. You have a thin DOF and snap away happily with subject/eye detection. Suddenly you see the opportunity to focus on a different detail in the scene (e.g. the person holding some flowers or some details in the outfit) and you want to quickly snap different compositions with the additional detail (that can't be detected by the subject/eye detection algorithms), maybe even while the face is still visible. With Nikon or Sony you just hit a button, "lock in" the other detail, freely move and snap happily away.

With Canon that is much harder to achieve in my experience. If the face is still visible you will have to deactive subject detection or use different focus methods. But when not being static, moving around and re-composing you will typically have to adjust the area you are focusing on. I do this by switching to single point AF, using the EVF and selecting the focus point via the touch screen ("touch and drag AF"). Depending on how fast and often you recompose this is serious work. And if you want to use subject/eye detection in between you will always have to cycle through the AF methods. With Nikon you can jump from subject detection to fully controllable "any object tracking mode" and back again with only one additional button press. It is quite a bit faster. To be honest, it is hard to explain and to get excited about if you have never used it. Here is an example video (should start at 6:42):

https://youtu.be/GbCTwetu_n8?t=402

He is using the joystick at the beginning to shift the position of the tracking focus field, this is of course not necessary (guess he is doing it because his camera is on a tripod and he wants to start with the figure in the center). And of course this is again a somewhat static setup, in realworld usage you will be moving yourself much more for e.g. weddings.

Here another very quick example on how to switch really fast between any object tracking and subject detection (3:41) (just watch the next 10 seconds):

https://youtu.be/Unc0k_H6KXQ?t=221

Another example, well explained (6:07):

https://youtu.be/Wy8iXtoxa24?t=367

Update: This is actually the best video, at 7:50 he demonstrates fast toggling between eye AF and tracking.

Maybe you can see the usefullness to have this mode and kind of tracking performance.

Man you need to rent R3, R6 ii, R7 or even R10 if you didnt have enough money.

Here videos how it works in my camera. Its pretty much mimic those nikon tracking without any additional button to disengage or recenter the af point.

https://youtu.be/eQuzAvNG-WI

If you dont want to rent a new camera, you can try nimonus settings on your R5 and assign it into a button

Nimonus wrote:

Is it the very basic AF for Canon mirrorless cameras?

You can get focusing on anything you want with AF method :-)+track?

The focused subject will be locked by showing a blue rectangle on it maybe following the priority sequence as: eyes, face, head, body, subjects.

Subject becomes the natural AF target if no people/animal/vehicle detected.

If you simply only want to focus on subjects other than people/animal/vehicle, you may

  1. Set AF method to :-)+tracking
  2. Set the Initial servo AF pt other than auto
  3. Set the subject to detect: none
  4. Eye detection: disable

You will find you can lock on the subject easily

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