R8 is Full Frame; R50 succeeds the M50?

CamerEyes wrote:

RLight wrote:

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-will-soon-announce-the-canon-eos-r8-and-canon-eos-r50-along-with-two-new-kit-lenses/

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There goes the rumor of an M6 form factor R10... It's an RP successor / A7C competitor of some kind. This is cool, but I was really hoping for the former. But, if Canon can make the R8 small enough, with that RF 24-50, without the quirks of the A7C, I might have a look.

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Now that R50 is clearly an M50 in RF mount. Obviously with R10 "guts". Possibly a different shutter if I had to speculate. I doubt they're giving it 15FPS at this price point.

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RF 55-210 f/5-7.1 IS STM is pretty logical. Interesting that they've redone both the EF-M 15-45 and now EF-M 55-200 with newer optical formulas, not just adapt the M mount optics to RF like the RF 18-150. Redesigns represent updates to latest optical techniques, in Canon's case, optics made with digital correction "baked in".

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Curious folks thoughts on these. Does it change anyone's calculus? For me it does as I was hoping for a new car camera. R50 is likely going to have an integrated EVF ala M50 making ultra-compact out where slapping say an RF-S 22mm on it and throwing it in a glovebox isn't an option. Now the M50 Mark II + 15-45 and 55-200 were "fun" so long as you got a good copy of the optics which I presume part of the redesigns resolve some of these issues and obviously the R10's updated sensor and processor resolve AF updates and 4K support that the M series lacks. Thus far, these updates sound more like copying others (Z50 and A7C) and filling out the traditional Rebel series (R10) rather than addressing compact-power (M). Hrmph. Maybe the R8 will. We'll see what she looks like shortly, that'll be telling.

Don't know if it was already brought up: 6 and below are full frame, 7 and above are cropped. The R8 can't be FF therefore.

This dates back to their DSLR days. Otherwise, R1 is FF, R2 cropped, R3 FF, R4 cropped, R5 FF, R6 cropped (not). Doing it the reverse means the R5 should be cropped. Both the R8 and the R10 should be cropped therefore. They are responding to Fuji's dominance of the cropped sensor market, maybe? Assumptions, educated guesses only. No one gets mad, ok?

Canon has these internal slide decks that show the relation of one body to another. Some canon bodies are considered more “professional“ than others. At $1499 it’s full frame even though it’s targeted to amateurs more than it is professionals.

Consider the 24-50 lens for a minute. At that focal length it’s most definitely full frame.