R8 is Full Frame; R50 succeeds the M50?

Alastair Norcross wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

John Crowe wrote:

Of course this should be in the Rumours forum.

What continually mystifies me is the move to slower and slower lenses. The big advantage to mirrorless, originally touted, was the ease of making faster and lighter lenses. Now Canon is favouring slow mediocre lenses instead.

The problem is that there's no middle ground. You either pony up for some high-end glass, like those f1.2 lenses, or you get very slow mediocre (at best) lenses.

What?! 16 F2.8, 24 F1.8, 35 F1.8, 50 F1.8, 85 F2. None of those lenses is slow. I own four of them, none of which is mediocre, either.

I think you may be too close to the lenses to be objective. But all of those lenses are behind the competition in at least one way (slow AF), with some having other flaws (I'm sorry, but the software correction on the 16 is beyond the pale... and I have found that RF lenses tend to have more vignetting than the competition across the board)

So with the primes you are indeed choosing between a very consumer grade STM lens, or heavy L glass if it's even available. That extremely bifurcated setup is not the case elsewhere.

There is also a trio of F4 L zooms, to go along with the bigger, more expensive F2.8 zooms (and the amazing 28-70 F2). This continual nonsense about Canon only releasing fast expensive lenses or slow cheap lenses makes me wonder whether people bother to do any research. There's a whole range of lenses, growing all the time, ranging from the F1.2 fast (and heavy and expensive) primes, through a bunch of smaller (some very small) cheaper, lighter, still quite fast primes, and zooms of lots of different apertures, all the way to the slow lenses you seem to think are the only alternatives to the really fast ones. You know that this site has a "lenses" tab, which allows you to see all the lenses from each manufacturer, right? A click or two would allow you to see that what you're saying is just plain false.

Maybe we'll see them at some point in the future?

Or even the past, as we already have.

Along with some good crop zooms?