R8 is Full Frame; R50 succeeds the M50?

RLight wrote:

KEG wrote:

RLight wrote:

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-will-soon-announce-the-canon-eos-r8-and-canon-eos-r50-along-with-two-new-kit-lenses/

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There goes the rumor of an M6 form factor R10... It's an RP successor / A7C competitor of some kind. This is cool, but I was really hoping for the former. But, if Canon can make the R8 small enough, with that RF 24-50, without the quirks of the A7C, I might have a look.

24-50 sounds like a very interesting lens, I totally can see me getting one for fun.

If they can make the R8 (Probably dubbed RP II) more powerful and smaller with it? Yeah it could be a winner. When you consider lenses like the RF 16 f/2.8, 15-30? Yeah, it can be a good thing. I gather this is Canons MO… Push people to FF.

FF M6 mk II is almost an instant buy in my opinion.

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Now that R50 is clearly an M50 in RF mount. Obviously with R10 "guts". Possibly a different shutter if I had to speculate. I doubt they're giving it 15FPS at this price point.

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RF 55-210 f/5-7.1 IS STM is pretty logical. Interesting that they've redone both the EF-M 15-45 and now EF-M 55-200 with newer optical formulas, not just adapt the M mount optics to RF like the RF 18-150. Redesigns represent updates to latest optical techniques, in Canon's case, optics made with digital correction "baked in".

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Curious folks thoughts on these. Does it change anyone's calculus? For me it does as I was hoping for a new car camera. R50 is likely going to have an integrated EVF ala M50 making ultra-compact out where slapping say an RF-S 22mm on it and throwing it in a glovebox isn't an option. Now the M50 Mark II + 15-45 and 55-200 were "fun" so long as you got a good copy of the optics which I presume part of the redesigns resolve some of these issues and obviously the R10's updated sensor and processor resolve AF updates and 4K support that the M series lacks. Thus far, these updates sound more like copying others (Z50 and A7C) and filling out the traditional Rebel series (R10) rather than addressing compact-power (M). Hrmph. Maybe the R8 will. We'll see what she looks like shortly, that'll be telling.