Do JPEG Styles alter the histogram?

nnowak wrote:

m100 wrote:

nnowak wrote:

m100 wrote:

nnowak wrote:

m100 wrote:

nnowak wrote:

m100 wrote:

StrugglingforLight wrote:

I haven't found a definite solution. Since I don't fully understand the histogram behavior with different styles to accurately expose to the right, just exposing to what I feel is the "correct exposure". In raw, I do tend to expose a bit to the right. It would be nice if the camera had zebras function but I don't think it does.

I just keep it in the standard picture style unless I'm shooting raw+jpg, in which case I shoot for the out of camera jpg and not post (raw).

Right ?

You got me studying on it though !

I did find when the camera is connected to my computer using EOS Utility with live view on the computer screen I can see the histogram change when I select different picture styles in the main control panel.

You didn't need to go through the trouble of hooking up the EOS Utility. The in-camera histogram clearly moves with changes to picture style settings, even if the camera is set to RAW only. While harder to see, significant changes to the white balance will also move the histogram.

That is a product photography setup. It stays hooked up until I run out of stuff to sell ?

The camera in the scene is too dark ? Histogram is not much use in this case ?

Were those quesiotions?

Yes. I am questioning everything ?

Wasn't sure since your posts tend to have more question marks than periods.

Looking at your setup, I am assuming you are going for a look where the product is well lit and the background gets completely blown out to pure white. This would give your histogram a huge spike on the right side and another spike somewhere else corresponding to the color and illumination of the object. With your sample above, there is a massive spike on the right corresponding to your background and another big spike near the left side for the black camera. The histogram is far less important than getting a good exposure for the product.

That is a lot different from landscape photography where you are trying to ensure nothing in the scene gets blown out. Shadows can be brought up in post, but blown highlights are gone forever. For landscape photography, a flat picture style would be used and the exposure adjusted to just barely touch the right side of the histogram. The resulting live view/JPEG may look pretty bad, but the RAW file will have the best possible adjustability. Using a high contrast and/or high saturation picture style will make it look like you are hitting the right side of the histogram earlier than reality.

I hear what you are saying.

Late at night the other day this almost made sense to me !

He says he likes it for stills in raw too.

https://prolost.com/blog/2012/4/10/prolost-flat.html

Not for me ? i don't think so ? Not for stills ?

Those setting could be used for stills too, but setting sharpness to zero would not be necessary. You could probably find some alternate settings that might be a bit better, but the Prolost is a step in the right direction.

That is good because the sharpness setting is the one I like to turn up for best focus peaking performance.

Thank you for your answers.  I am a newbee steep on the learning curve too.

Photography keeps my old brain still wanting to learn more !