Never ever try a PRIME lens.. Going back to a ZOOM, you get too obsessed w. IQ

Rodger in Edmonton wrote:

MAC wrote:

gaul wrote:

davel33 wrote:

I have a few questions if you dont mind

#1 Do you crop a LOT, size and how often ?

#2 When you made this comparison how much did you enlarge them, 100% ?

#3 What res is your monitor ?

I use two Asus ProArt 24" at 1920 x 1200 = 2,304,000

My R6 has a 20mpx sensor 5472 x 3648 = 19,961,856

My Canon photo printer will print 13x19 at maybe that res at max dpi, I would have to check but the amount of ink would bankrupt me

BUT I do sorta agree with you When I bought my R the first lens's were all primes rf35 rf1.8, rf 50 f1.8 and RF 85 f2.

I like to do my composition in camera as much as I can which can be hard to do with primes.

I am asking because I was an electrical engineer and one thing that I had to learn the hard way is a closed mind never gets better**, so I ask a lot of questions

Thank you

Dave

** Your mind is like a parachute it MUST be open to work

Hi Dave,

Yes, I was doing "pixel peeping"

32inch 4k Monitor and yes at 200%

Yes, yes, I am at fault, I confess...

Still, my PRIMES (all of them) did shine more from F/4 to F/5.6 compared to my EF 24-105 F/4 IS Mk ii

But a 2nd batch of test with these 2 parameters changed are interesting too:

- In order to give an advantage to the zoom and benefit from IS, I did reduce the shutter speed for pics with my EF 24-105 F/4 IS Mk ii

- I also included tests at lower apertures as F/8

Both new parameters made the EF 24-105 F/4 IS Mk ii results look more interesting

For what it is worth, following my own humbles tests, UPDATED RESULT:

• All my primes are much better at normal or high shutter speed than my EF 24-105 F/4 IS Mk ii
• Apart from focal flexibility.. obviously... I will now consider my usage of my zoom EF 24-105 F/4 IS Mk ii for the following scenario: Slow shutter speeds thanks to IS and low apertures F/8 and less

My primes tend to be "old" ones without IS, so yes, this is not a perfect test of a new prime with IS vs a new zoom with IS

Rgds, Gaul

swapping to primes is a pain, gets you dust, and pixel peeping doesn't represent real pictures

They are different tools in the kit and all have great value.

A Tilt Shift will eat a RF 24 - 105 for breakfast lunch and supper on architecture,

ok - but I haven't bought one, dxo viewpoint does great to straighten the lines

A 100 mm macro will crush it in small and portraits

true - I use my 100L

a 135 F2 has b/w 7 x less to 0.5 x less field distortion than an RF 24 - 105 F4

ok- at 135 f2 a different animal for sure

The 24 - 105 will never take a picture with the shallow DOF cinematic effect a 135 F2 can or even the macro

ok - but we are outside the 24-105

BUT were I asked pick 1 lens only - it would have to be a 24 - 105 just as I would pick a 5 iron for a club with a putter.

me too

A golfer learns early - you can play any course with a 5 iron and a putter, 24 - 105 is the same not the best but it has the most application .

on the fly framing to get theshot

For whatever it gives up in the aforementioned areas, it gains in flexibility and composition especially in busy scenes.

yep, compo

If I am doing street with a 135 - many opportunities are lost because I cannot get the frame proper in a short time - the 24 - 105 would just AF it while I walk along at a good focal length

yep, compo

A Robertson screwdriver is not a " better" screwdriver than a flathead unless it fits the jo so to speak.

it is a swiss army knife