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Action shots - Faster lens options (EF preferred) and camera software settings

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Re: Action shots - Faster lens options (EF preferred) and camera software settings
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MAC wrote:

thunder storm wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

MAC wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

EscVelocity wrote:

I don't plan to buy a new camera now. Or tomorrow.

If you did, the M6 Mark II is simply spectacular.

and you've shown these many times with your sports pics

To tell you the truth, I do enjoy shooting with my little M6ii waaay more than with any of the high-caliber stuff I own. If I’m shooting for myself, I pick the M6ii whenever I can!

Chris at DPReview rated the m6II with available lenses his top pick for a used camera value setup

And WE (on this Forum) also know how darn capable it really is!

one should evaluate imo - selling everything and starting again with m6II + 32 + 11-22 + 56 + dxo pl6

One could not speak truer words!

- forget about 2-4 years - this stuff is generational

…until they pry it from my cold dead hands! 😵

R2

I'm going to sell my crop stuff. No M6II, 32mm, 11-22mm anymore for me.

well, smaller goes out the window for you

but the first time we interacted you were using siggy 18-35 and 50-100 on m50 and I'm thinking this young fella doesn't care about small size and weight, and lower costs, but is looking for speed and IQ when photographing fast moving kids

actually, being involved in high level action shooting in my younger years, your quests impressed me

I will replace the ef-m 32mm f/1.4 with the FE Samyang 45mm f/1.8 or 50mm f/2.5 G-master

you do love that 50 mm fov - me too

.But I need to find a financial fix to benefit from the current rebate for that 50mm f/1.2 GM first, as that's priority number one.

wowsers, you are getting the best of the best

It has internal focusing, it weights only 778g, and the design is geared towards AF speed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3RFSS7vNTY&t=105s

Tonight I'm going to search my attic to see if I can find my MC-11 and update it if needed.

I remember when you bought it for the 6600 that you returned

I'm done with Canon.

to clarify - as I understand it, you'll keep your R5, and some lenses, but all purchases from here on out will be for the sony

Yes, I don't mind to own two full frame camera's. I'll keep the R5 for the EF 24-70mm f/2.8 mkII, and 40&105mm f/1.4 Art. The 24-70mm doesn't work well via MC-11. The heavy Art lenses will fit the ergonomics of the R5 a bit better, and I expect at least the 105mm to focus better on the R5. I love that 105mm for it's character. Front elements should be large, believe me.

If I need more than one (some need three...) cameras anyway to shoot the glass I want the second one doesn't have to be a Canon....

third party glass rules for you, so I understand, RF locked out 3rd party

Yeah, I don't like those games. Locking out third party is o.k., but only for protecting lenses Canon is actually producing themselves, NOT for creating and maintaining gaps. There is absolutely NO reason not to produce fast focusing 50 and 85mm primes and prevent third party manufacturers from making it at the same time. RF 50mm f/1.4 IS USM + RF 85mm f/1.4 IS USM, that's what I need. I don't want to have f/2.8 only when I need fast AF.

M is compact, but no IBIS

true, but the 11-22 has IS and I've got great use of 32 f1.4 without IS

and no R5 style subject tracking.

as R2 says, spot focus and manual servo tracking rocks - the old fashion way

A camera tracks a subject faster than I do.

R7 has IBIS and close to R5-style subject tracking, but no 32mm f/1.4 USM.

yes, RF-s glass is lacking - no R7 or R10 for me

The R full frame cameras have IBIS, but no fast focusing 50 or 85mm primes at all regardless your needs for compactness, shallow DOF, or whatsoever.

I would have liked to try the RF 50 f1.2 you rented by tracking the old fashioned way

Still a camera tracks a subject faster than I do, and the AF motors of the RF lens simply don't generate the speed when moving that heavy front element. There's a 15% RF 85mm f/2.0 IS stm AF style badness mixed into it's AF design, and I don't like it. At 2450 euro it should be perfect. The Sony GM is only 2300 euro, currently it's discounted at 2100, and grey market it's only 1730.

For those who need the form factor of the M6II admittedly Sony made the huge mistake to leave out a front dial from the A7C, and that's a no go.

yes, old ergonomics was a big mistake

A7CmkII might change it. That slow 28-60mm wasn't a mistake if you like good IQ and compactness.

And yes, the front dial of the A7IV isn't placed very well, and it turns a bit stiff. But it's good enough for me.

So got the A7IV (new, 5 year warranty, only 2450 euro).

Wowsers! Congrats Storm!

Thanks.

Now I can set dual prime setups and the 45mm f/1.8 Samyang or 50mm f/2.5 G-master on the Sony and either wide angle (EF 28mm f/2.8 IS USM) or telephoto option (RF 85mm f/2.0 IS stm) on the R5 can be easily compact enough for me.

two bodies, three primes makes some sense to me - in my case, in the long run I'd like to see a great FF for Canon in an APS-c body

Canon might do that. Same battery as the RP, R10 and M6II. Compatibility with the EVF DC2 would be great.

to use my RF 24-105 F4L and then get the pop can sized RF 70-200 F4L and maybe the Rf 14-35 F4L - the trinity of F4L's and supplement them with primes.

I can estimate though that the 32 f1.4 on m6II will be my 50 fov prime

It's good stuff.

I like your thinking though, to use multiple bodies vs trying to fit everything into a locked down RF glass house ...

There are some downsides. If I want 24-70 + 100-400mm the 100-400mm has to be on the A7IV as the 24-70 won't focus well via MC-11. Therefor I can't change the 100-400mm contemporary for the compact RF 100-400mm. Not a huge problem, as the 100-400mm isn't that important to me, but it's a downside nonetheless.

On the plus side: I can shop for a compact 70-200(or 180)mm f/2.8 for the Sony and go 24-70mm + 70-200mm f/2.8 that way. I can also shop for a compact 85mm f/1.4 and combine that one with 24-70mm. So all in all it's not a bad thing to have the 24-70mm on the R5.

hope you continue to interact and post over here

I think I will. I've shot a lot of M-stuff, and it created lot's of pictures I really love, and never would have been made if I would have waited for Canon full frame mirrorless.

Happy New Year!

Same to you MAC. Let's hope it's a better year than 2022 with China overcoming it's Covid lock downs, Russia kicked out of the Crimea and Donbas + peace in the Ukraine, Republicans and Democrats working in cooperation recognizing they are all Americans, melting hearts and freezing ice sheets, and the list is longer to be honest.

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