R6ii with the best upscaling vs r5 straight out of camera

thunder storm wrote:

MAC wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

MAC wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

BTW, I’m simply loving the R6ii and would absolutely recommend it to you (for the type of shooting you do). I see an R5ii in my future, but if it turns out to be a good enough improvement for wildlife, I just don’t know if I’d want to lug an R1 around on the trail. Maybe, just maybe a Universal Shutter would be worth it?

And I suppose for events and sports an R1 would be nice. I’ve greatly debated the R3, and have held off while waiting for an R1 to appear.

This is indeed looking to be a very happy new year! Have yourself a great one!

R2

last time you sung the praises of a "_6II" model camera, I bought one

LOL! And what a camera the M6ii is!

^this

Truth be told, the M6ii's Spot AF capabilities rival all of my R bodies for everything I shoot

^new timers can't accept this as true but we old timers know how to shoot the old fashion way

save for BIFs. Powerful little package!

but you have the terrific zoom glass to go with it to get the framing right first time

Indeed, I had to have those $$$ zooms for work stuff.

going backwards to 24 mpxl is a real sticking point with me because I do a ton of loose framing and high cropping with primes that I like them to act like zooms. The m6II and 32 f1.4 is a blessing for how I shoot and process with this high mpxl cropping method.

Yessir, I do the same with a lot of my (work) shots. In fact one of my requirements is to frame loosely so that various crops can be used, and/or text added.

and that gives me pause on the R6II, which looks like the op is pausing too

for working pj's who have the glass to get the framing it is a no brainer

but for advanced enthusiasts - we want the mpxl's - and for me it is about creative, artistic images where significant cropping is the vehicle.

for example, I could see myself shooting a whole lot of stuff with an 83 mpxl FF sensor (a FF R7/M6II sensor) plus Storms siggy 40 F1.4 which is fast and blazingly sharp across the frame

Yup, a couple of different "focal lengths" from each shot! The R5's 45 MP excels at this.

yep, and therefore it has a higher pricetag

20 and even 24 mpxl old in the tooth imo in this day and age - just like Canon held on to 18 for way too long, now they are holding on to 24 way too long

I'd need more than the math to add up though, I must justify the priorities within life's complexity...

we shall see

IMHO subject tracking is still in its infancy (and to be truly honest all of today's cameras show it).

^ and you own many of them, this is profound

This tech will continue to advance very quickly as processing power increases and algorithms improve, and there will be a lot of iterations in a very short amount of time (note the R6ii). The trick is to determine exactly when to jump in.

true - I hate iteration after iteration and want to buy a generational camera when I buy one

OTOH it's easy to determine the resolution that's required for one's needs. It's all of the other considerations that make the decision so darn hard!

the more, the better

they just need to offer, a good array of smaller raw sizes and a good array of fps

personally, I like 7 fps of the m6II

personally, I think the m6II with my 32, 11-22 and 100L and dxo pl is a generational system for me

Good luck in your quest!

thx, my RP + RF 24-105 F4 L + RF 85 F2 + m6II system is servicing my needs fine - and I'll wait for something where it clearly makes sense as a generational leap

You're shooting your RP with an f/4.0 zoom.

If you don't frame loose and just use it as a zoom 24Mp might be enough. This makes the 24Mp R6II more adequate.

true

At the same time f/4.0 is somewhat forgiving for AF. Maybe you just don't need better AF?

true

And with the 85mm the AF of the body isn't the bottle neck.

true

In my opinion the R6II is too expensive for what it is.

for me, agree

Just wait 12 to 18 months and see what the price will be then. A7IV = 33Mp & 2449 euro right now. R6II = 24Mp & 2929 euro.

I'm hoping we see a new R that meets my high mpxl needs

24 >> 33 = 35.5% more

I want to see where they go with a R update

33 >> 45 =36.4% more

I don't need the fancy focus stuff nor the high fps

So you're paying 480 euro less to get half way R5 detail. (The sweet spot as long as you want to believe your lenses have perfect IQ.)

The R5 is 4299 euro, so in terms of Mp the A7IV - at a Canon price tag - should have cost 3614 euro.

saw a refurb R5 for $3300 over the holidays -- tempting

Now the R6II will have better AF, as it should. But the A7IV will still AF better than your M6II (and RP), and it has an even slightly higher Mp-count als well. It can't be that bad....

I love my Canon lenses and am not looking to change systems

I think Canon will try to keep up with sony and do at least a 61 mpxl R5II

my hope someday is for 83 mpxl -- the FF extrapolation of my m6II

I'd love to use your siggy 40 f1.4 on an 83 mpxl camera

R2