How can Sigma make sure the FFF is the best success it can be? Locked

ChromeLight wrote:

Scottelly wrote:

ChromeLight wrote:

Scottelly wrote:

ChromeLight wrote:

My question is will the EVF be as terrible as the one in the Quattro cameras? If they are able to off load a high resolution video feed into the EVF like everyone else then I will consider getting a FFF. But there's no way I'll consider looking through something that's worse than a 1970s View Master for the better part of a decade.

I truly don't know what you mean. I shot with a Sony A65 for quite a while before shooting with my SD Quattro H. That Sony had a significantly better viewfinder than the one in my Sony A55, which had a much better viewfinder than the one in my Sony R1. I didn't notice any big disadvantage of the viewfinder in my Sigma vs. the one in my Sony A65, which was a viewfinder that was complimented by reviewers at the time. I guess today it would be considered unacceptable though. I have used my friend's Fuji GFX100 from time to time, which is by all accounts a very modern and premium quality mirrorless camera, with a good viewfinder, and I don't find his viewfinder considerably better than the one in my SD Quattro H. In fact, when I was shooting the two cameras side-by-side to compare images I was making to be as identical as possible (for comparing on the computer screen - see this thread: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63281635 ), it didn't seem like there was a significant difference between one viewfinder and the other (meaning the viewfinder in his Fuji and the viewfinder in my Sigma). I just didn't notice any significant difference. I was not comparing viewfinders at the time though, so maybe that's why I didn't notice. I'm sure the Fuji has a better viewfinder. After-all the camera costs $10,000, right? What I'm saying though is I guess the viewfinder in the Sigma can't be THAT bad if I didn't even notice a difference.

Still, I'm sure Sigma will use a better viewfinder for the FFF. It will most likely be similar to the 3.69M dot viewfinder that works with the fp and fp L . . . or maybe something even better.

Scott, I don't mean the viewfinder itself. I meant the low resolution readout from the Quattro sensor. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Well now I'm confused. What low resolution readout? If you mean the 6.5 MP readout from the SD Quattro H in Low-Res mode, then I don't get it. The quality of those photos looks pretty good to me - better than the photos from my SD 14, for sure. Maybe you mean the SD Quattro and not the SD Quattro H, but even then the 5 MP photos from those are better than the photos from my SD 14, so I'm not sure what you mean. Just so you're aware, the crop factor of the SD 14 is 1.7x, and the crop factor of the SD Quattro is 1.5x, so the lenses will resolve more total detail for the larger Quattro sensor. As far as the image quality in the viewfinder goes, the quality is far below what it could be with a 5 MP image. No doubt the viewfinders on most of the cameras with an EVF are showing HD these days, or about 2K video, which would be about a 2 to 3 MP image. I'm guessing the feed from the Quattro would be the same, though I guess it might be less. The 3.69 million dot viewfinder of the fp is likely showing a scaled down image that's approximately 1.2 MP. I assume there is some scaling going on, because I don't know how else they'd do it.

What was it that you saw in the Quattro viewfinder that makes you think there is some sort of read-out problem?

I mean the low resolution "live view" readout into the EVF when you're shooting. Let me quote someone else:

Many reviews I've read however mention being disappointed with the EVF -- while the resolution seems to be fine (clear and and sharp settings information), the actual image is often described as blurry, 'low resolution' and 'laggy'.

That's what I meant.

Well, I'm sure they'll do better with futue cameras. I'm surprised the Quattros aren't all way better than the DP Merrills though. There is less data to process, and the processor has GOT to be way more powerful. I have never read that the dp Quattros are significantly better for shooting with though. Supposedly they focus a "little faster" than the DP Merrills.