lockouts

MAC wrote:

m100 wrote:

MAC wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

MAC wrote:

times have changed

it used to be AF was the distinctive advantage and now it is not the distinguishing feature. We have R3 AF in an R10 and the advantages being pushed these days are e-shutter read times to avoid rolling shutter - eventually moving toward universal shutter - but where is the value proposition small form factor and glass?

and now we have hoarding of m6II's and great m glass because Canon wants to protect their FF RF cash cows by not giving us great RF-s glass like the 32 f1.4, the 11-22, 16 f1.4, 56 f1.4, 18-50 f2.8, etc

IBM paid the price in the old days by locking out 3rd party with proprietary designs

that was in a rapidly expanding market

it will be interesting to see in a compressing market because of the iphone if canon's lockout of 3rd party and the m system ends up like IBM

it also seems that Canon is on a more aggressive launch of bodies (eg, R6II and soon R5II) which was Sony's mode of operation - iteration after iteration

in my opinion, they need to bring back m and the 32.5 mpxl sensor and give it digic x because they ain't going to make great RF-s glass and the m system gives them the separate arms length orphan mount where they can focus on FF RF for R versus the crazy approach of holding back RF-s development

small and powerful and value proposition and advantages over iphone is where they should be designing - digic 10 in a 32.5 mpxl m -- and an updated m system would offer that

An updated M System would indeed be a dream come true.

What I think is truly ironic though is the "role" of the iPhone as described here, as

Apple is perhaps THE MOST exclusive product line in existence! Talk about a Lockout!!

Wide Moat - I own stock in 2.2 Tril

R2

Apple will give you a service manual and sell parts ?

You need a special tool to unlock it though ?

https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/2000/MA2075/en_US/iphone-13-pro-max-07300325A-repair.pdf

I see you have a repair background.

in this day and age though, we live in a throwaway society for goods like the iphone and m cameras when they break and lower dollars are at stake for the items vs getting them repaired

as you, I'd feel like I needed insurance on more expensive $2000+ FF bodies

Canon will not give us new powerful m -- what we want - because for now they are raking it in on RF - until someone releases what we want and we migrate - which will not be good for Canon - unless they give us what we want

This is what I would do with M stuff if it broke and I did not want to fix it. For sure not throw it away.

People do fix this stuff and this is how they get parts.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=canon+eos+m&_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=7000&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

There is a service manual and training manual for the M6II ?

Now that Canon has killed it they should let us have the service manual so people could replace the internal battery, screen,  buttons and such. Simple repairs that could keep a lot of M6IIs out of the trash ?