How can Sigma make sure the FFF is the best success it can be? Locked

DMillier wrote:

This started with Iain complaining about the term "full frame" which is really arbitrary and meaningless and I agree with him.

I don't. It's NOT arbitrary OR meaningless.

I added the secondary complaint about the term "cropped sensor". For the reasons I already explained (DX sensors are smaller sensors using bigger lenses and so legitimate, from the ground up 4/3 sensors have never been "cropped" anything). m4/3 users have complained about this usage for years. It attempts to demean sensors smaller than 135.

I'm not so sure about that. Was Nikon attempting to demean the sensors their 1" sensor Nikon 1 cameras, by calling them 2.7x crop sensor cameras? I don't think so. It was just a practical way for people to think of the size of the sensors in the cameras, so they could understand easily what the lenses they had would be like on those little cameras with the adapter Nikon made to put their full-frame or APS-C lenses on them.

There is a separate usage of the "crop" term - "crop factor". I actually complain about both these terms but (being generous) I can see that "crop factor" has some kind of meaning if one assumes that every photographer in the world understands that 35mm is some kind of universal standard and that it is easier to compare a native format to 35mm than it is to learn all those numbers for every different format (Ausjena's point, in effect).

EXACTLY

But I still dislike the usage and particularly dislike the special place it assigns to 35mm.

But 35mm deserves it, being the most popular film format ever created.

This didn't happen in the film era. It's a dumbing down usage for the most part.

Of course it is. People have to learn so much about digital cameras that the manufacturers had to try to make terminology and explanations to simplify things as much as they could.

Meanwhile, I have to live in the real world and accept my camera has a 0.79x crop sensor (how ridiculous does that sound, how can you have a negative crop).

LOL

if we are going to do this murder to the language, why don't we call it what it is "equivalence to 35mm" or some better phrase.

People DO that already. Haven't you ever heard that before?

"Crop" became an archaic term around 2003 when the 1Ds and 14n appeared and DX cameras got their own dedicated bodies and lens sets.

Wait . . . does the crop factor have something to do with crop circles?