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Re: How can Sigma make sure the FFF is the best success it can be?

DMillier wrote:

Iain G Foulds wrote:

… Thinking that it is important to remember that “full frame” is a false label. It is not an objective measure of completeness- as if anything smaller is incomplete.

… It is simply an arbitrary dimension and ratio left-over from film days.

Kodak had something to say about that full frame label (which is just a marketing term that came into general use for no identifiable reason)

I hope you're joking here.

back in the CCD era. CCDs were made in two readout styles. The expensive ones which did full frame readout and the cheaper ones that did interline readout. They used to get quite irked about the "full frame" term being repurposed to mean "35mm format" rather than full frame readout.

I hate it because formats such as m4/3 and 44x33mm which have their own dedicated lens mounts and lens ranges get wrongly called "crop" sensors, which they are not,

Yes they are. The Pentax 645 D, for example, with its 44mm x 33mm sensor, is not even close to 6 cm x 4.5 cm. The originak 645 film cameras though shot a frame of film that measured approximately 55mm x 45mm, right? That makes the digital camera a crop sensor camera. Some day we'll see a full-frame 645 camera. In fact, isn't the latest medium format camera from Phase One a full-frame 645 camera?

as if they were meant to be used with lenses intended for a larger format. It is intended to make the smaller formats seem inferior which I guess is the point if you are a vendor of 36x24mm sensors.

The only useful use of the term (or the "cropped" term) is for aps-c DSLRs when using 35mm "full frame" format lenses. m4/3 has never been sold to be used with 35mm format lenses (even though you can just about adapt anything these days) and has never been a crop of full frame. Calling is a 2x crop is an insult.

LOL, but compared to full-frame the m4/3 sensors ARE approximately 2x crop sensors.

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