It’s like they trying to wipe the M6ii off the earth Locked

matejphoto wrote:

rz64 wrote:

matejphoto wrote:

m100 wrote:

trungtran wrote:

Manufacturers have excess stock. So better to sell now and make a small profit, versus hanging on to stock for next year.

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The M6ii and M200 might be the last of it's kind. Maybe the R100 will try and fill both of these cameras spots.

One can say the R* or R** or R*** is the update for the M6II but the many years old much loved EF-M 32mm has no update ? Or the much loved EF-M 22mm ?

I am not buying it !

They will come. They don't need much to match the EF-M system:

11-22

22

32

55-200

Maybe a small macro

This market is getting very small with smartphones being as good as they are.

I have M6m2 with 32mm and I think I would actually prefer small full frame R plus a high quality 50mm lens as a replacement.

RF 50mm f/2 with fancy glass (e.g. APO like) for $1000 would be awesome.

I don't think so. Indeed, it does need "much" to match the EF-M system:
11-22mm, 22mm, 32mm

All these lenses in a comparable size/weight, with a comparable IQ and a comparable price will be almost impossible for RF-s. Why should Canon produce these lenses?
They want to sell RF-lenses, no RF-s.
For Canon the upgrade path will always be RF, not RF-s.

But if you want to change to FF R, no problem, follow that route.

However, here in this forum, most users have fun in using their EF-M camera with EF-M lenses, they don't need RF-s.

EOS M system is dead. I would be shocked if they would release anything new. If anyone is happy what EOS M offers right now, they are in an awesome shape, I think there will be a glut of lightly used cameras on the market for the next decade. I have 3 bodies and 10 lenses but once there is enough RF-S I will make the switch for simplicity.

I think there are two types of crop sensor users (e.g. EOS M):

1.) People who only use crop due to money and/or size.

2.) People (like me) who have other better cameras and want something smaller for special purposes (usually travel).

For Group 1 it doesn't matter which brand they buy, Fujifilm is probably the best choice.

For Group 2 it is a little trickier, for example I have the R, R5 and the tri of 2.8 zooms. But I still want a RF-s camera with couple small lenses for travel. It would be great if I could use the giant and heavy FF L zooms if ever needed. Also it is nice to shoot with one brand for since you are used to menus,....

I think adding 22mm and 32mm in RF-S mount would be super easy in RF, use the same optics and put it in a plastic shell.

If you want, you can permanently repeat "M is dead". However, this does not make any other system better.
I have tried two Fuji cameras in the past, my conclusion: No adequate substitute for my M6 and my lenses.

To my mind, you have forgotten a third group of users:
3.) People who are convinced that EOS-M is the "sweet spot" with regard to IQ, size, weight, handling, UI, color rendering, costs and fun in general.

I am sure that a change to FF (for me) would not result in better photos. I had more weight, more size, more costs, less transportability and probably less fun.

But I could proclaim that "I am shooting FF".