How can Sigma make sure the FFF is the best success it can be? Locked

Ceistinne wrote:

Scott,

The big question is will we ever see the proposed new FF X3 sensor.

I don't think so. I think it is just a matter of when, but not if. We can assume the FFF is coming. If not, then there is no point in debate or discussion of anything to do with it . . . and we can just assume Sigma cameras of the future will be like the fp and fp L, which I guess would not be the end of the World, but I would like the FFF to come into existence, and I would like to see a "Quattrified" successor. That's the camera that I really hope to see, because I am a detail addict (in other words, I want a 100 MP camera . . . or a 200 MP camera). First up will need to be the first full-frame three-layer sensor though, as Sigma is now calling it.

It was supposed to be done by the end of this year, 2022, but nothing has been said to say that they have moved to the stage 3 prototype mentioned earlier this year.

Well, if it comes in 2023 that would be great, but if it takes until 2024 then so be it. Whenever it is done is when it will be done. I plan to shoot with it for years to come either way, though who knows? Maybe Sigma will introduce a "Quattrified" version of the FFF just two or three years after the first FFF, and it will be THAT camera which I shoot with for years and years into the future.

Although I have been and still am a big user of Sigma X3 cameras since 2002 I am seriously tempted for some time now to move on but have been hanging on waiting more frustratedly to get some real information as to whether that FF X3 is likely to be seen fairly soon or ever.

I too am a little frustrated, but I just continue to build out my Nikon lens system. I now have a 14-24mm f2.8 G and a 200-400mm f4 VR G, with two nice Nikon primes that sit in between 24mm and 200mm (a 50mm f1.8 G and an 85mm f1.4 G). Today a 135mm f4 macro arrived, but it is not a Nikon lens. Instead I am doing a cross-platform experiment. An adapter will be arriving soon, hopefully, and I'll be able to use my new old Asahi medium format lens (a 6x7 lens) on my Nikon D810. I'll be able to use that lens on any camera, because it is the opposite of a mirrorless lens, and it will be very interesting to see what sort of image quality I can get out of it. I may end up getting a Sigma 135mm f1.8 Art lens in Nikon F mount to compare to it, eventually. I plan to get a 24-35mm f2 Art and a 40mm f1.4 Art for my Nikon too . . . and at some point (maybe the next lens I get) I'll get an all-around zoom (probably a Nikon 24-120mm f4 VR G). Then it will be time to go mirrorless. Hopefully by that time the FFF will be available. Otherwise I may just get an fp L or a used Sony A7r IV. Either way, I should be able to use all my Sigma SA mount lenses and my Nikon F mount lenses on whatever mirrorless camera I get. I may end up with more 6x7 lenses too.

With all the Sigma gear I have I don't need it, I suppose, but I have looked forward for a long time for a really all round full frame Sigma camera having all the image quality that their cameras are capable of but much more universally usable.

Me too.

Am I waiting in vain.?

I don't think so. I believe it's coming . . . just taking more time than anyone expected. Hopefully the wait will be worth it. That's what this thread is about . . . how Sigma can really do the best they can . . . not just with the sensor, but with the camera, maybe some accessories, the launch of the camera, and the support for the .x3f files too. Already Sigma has begun their move into the L mount system, with a great new line of small lenses as well as that amazing new 105mm Art macro and so many other L mount lenses, which, along with all the Panasonic and Leica lenses, will make the FFF much more versatile than the SD Quattro H and previous cameras with Foveon sensors.

S