Disheartening Very Disheartening

Scottelly wrote:

Ceistinne wrote:

Iain G Foulds wrote:

… The Sigma camera company is essentially a failure. It had a brilliant and unique sensor in the original vintage Foveon, lost much of that quality in the Merrill by sacrificing colour in pushing resolution. Realized that the colour was wretched in the Merrills, so pushed colour in the Quattro- causing over saturation and simplified colour. Then, abandoned their brilliant and unique sensor altogether, and followed the crowd- unsuccessfully.

Iain,

To describe Sigma as the Sigma camera company is essentially incorrect. I would say it is a company dedicated to photography, a company that makes equipment, mostly lenses, for photographers and videographers.

It also makes some cameras going back to the film days. I do not think they have been a failure in that regard.

Iain you seem to have convinced yourself that the only Sigma digital cameras with the very early sensors are unique and indeed they were and are but that is not to say that all the ones that followed them are not. I believe that each range of cameras they produced are unique as they all have their own strengths & weaknesses, but they are all capable of outputting first class files and making first class images used to their strenghts & processing properly.

There is really no reason to say that the colour was / is wretched in the Merrills

The color that the Merrills put out was considered the most realistic color of any camera by some photographers, and when the Quattros came along there were many who said Sigma had ruined the amazing color of the previous Foveon cameras with something that was not a true Foveon sensor. Well, now we know that Quattro produces the most accurate color of any camera with a Foveon sensor.

It wasn't quite right at first, but work on soon SPP improved things.

I get good colour from Quattro by saving DNG files and developing them in Adobe Camera Raw, using an input profile made with the Color Checker.

The colour quality does fall off rapidly with underexposure.

or to say that the Quattros colour is so pushed so as to cause over saturation.

This I agree with. If you don't like saturation, then turn it down. All that is controllable with the menu system in the camera. If the defaults are oversaturated in your estimation, then don't use Landscape color mode or turn down the saturation.

It just not the case in both instances.

Believe me you must use the Merrills and Quattros for some time and see for yourself just how good they are.

S

I agree.

Don