The K3 III in the comparison tool

flektogon wrote:

KPM2 wrote:

Hello hikerdoc

hikerdoc wrote:

KPM2 wrote:

Hello hikerdoc

hikerdoc wrote:

Forgive me if my naiveté is obvious, but if Adobe is trying to mimic the basic profile each manufacturer designates as default to render the image visible after import is it possible that the scale or zero point assigned by each manufacturer differs? That is, as ACR interprets what Pentax assigns as “0” in default rendering may be equivalent on the ACR scale to a Nikon “40” to achieve equivalent amounts of default profile sharpening. As it is raw data imported one can then add or subtract sharpening to form their own desired profiles or import settings.

I can not answer this, because I use not a ACR. This only can answer users, which have this ACR and than they can say....yes, for Nikon the ACR default for sharpness is 40 and for Pentax it is 0. I can only say that my LR use a sharpness amount of 25 as a default for my Pentax RAW files....but not a sharpness amount of 0 !

best regards. KPM2

I ask if this is Adobe ACR interpretation used in the studio comparison because I downloaded the images into ACR and get the basic sharpening setting of 0 for the Pentax .dng and 40 for the Nikon .nef. However, if I download the .nef directly into Nikon Studio NX convertor the default sharpening is listed as 0. I do not have a Pentax raw convertor to compare data there. Obviously the Nikon native convertor and the Adobe Standard profile in ACR assign different values for the default sharpening and a Nikon .nef 0 is a 40 as an Adobe .dng and a Pentax .dng 0 is a 0 as an Adobe .dng

Thank you for your reply !

Now when you count in what you wrote and Lessiters post's I think now that my thread do have in that what I wrote a wrong conclusion ! On the other hand, I do now not understand what my LR did....using it's default sharpness amount of 25 for all my own K1,Kp DNG files out of the camera and for this downloaded K1 DNG RAW file of the comparison tool suddenly a sharpness amount of 0

best regards. KPM2

Hello KPM2 and the other RAW shooters,

Now I really don't understand why you guys shoot RAW! If you are not in a control of how your photo editor generates the JPEG file for your viewing, then how you can apply your preferable (RAW) processing parameters? Whenever you open such processed file (.RAW or .JPG) with another photo editor, you end up with a different result .

It is just different.  I always process through LR so I get consistent results.  But I do have the option (IF I want) to process through DCU or other software if I want, e.g., DCU colours are closer / more consistent with OOC JPEGs

I knew that there is something fishy behind the raw processing and that's why I abandoned it after retiring my K-x camera. With a careful setting of the JPEG parameters I can achieve the same great results out of camera, which don't require any PP.

Just as you spent some time experimenting with in camera parameters and settling on them, it is the same with pp software.  Each image is not a new experiment.

And they will be exactly the same regardless who and which photo viewer is using .

One advantage of RAW is that processing software evolves.  I can reprocess RAW files that I originally processed a dozen years ago but get better results (sharper, less noise) with the new version of LR than when I did with the old version way back then.

Doug