Photo AI 1.0.7 - is it just me, or are the results vastly improved?

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Ernie Misner wrote:

Amazing and good to hear. Did you open your raw file directly in Photo AI, or?

Yes indeed I did take a ORF file right into the program. It does a nice job

I'm finding that, for raws, Photo AI falls a long way short of PhotoLab 6 with DeepPRIME XD. See https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66596422

Of course, Photo AI has the advantage with JPEGs.

Well not really. But then it depends on how much you hate digital noise. I personally prefer to ban it altogether and not compromise the detail. Yes DXO does a admirable job in this area. Better than anyone else out there, BUT perhaps in one manner not as well as Topaz. I can manipulate a 12,800ISO image with Topaz and end up with a finely detailed image, NO color noise nor ANY grain.

But no detail, either. Photo AI's heavy-handed NR loses all the detail.

If I try it on DXO it gets rid of most of the grain, but in many cases leaves some. Its a personal choice. limit it, moderate it or BAN it. I prefer the later. To each their own. From my recent testing I must say Topaz is getting VERY close to an essentially perfect software package with the Photo AI. Perhaps another couple updates and they can be there.

You get less detail with Photo AI than DeepPRIME XD, plus the Topaz raw processor is very poor (and isn't improving). For best noise-free results process raws in PhotoLab, then apply a final polish in Photo AI.

The results you're getting don't mirror mine. Perhaps there are some tweaks needed in Photo AI. All I know is that I'm NOT losing detail as you are.

Here's the raw file I used:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x6w3pilsbd03c0j/RX604367%20Temple%20of%20Saint%20Sava%2C%20Belgrade.ARW?dl=0

This is what I got from it using Photo AI:

Produced from raw using Photo AI

Can you tweak Photo AI to produce a better result? Can you make it equal what I got from PhotoLab 6? Maybe you can help me get better results from Photo AI? That would be welcome for me and any other users of it.

I already own Photo AI, but am still evaluating PL6. Maybe you can save me from needing to buy it, if Photo AI can produce equally good results?

Produced from the same raw using PhotoLab 6 with DeepPRIME XD and built-in VP4.

The PL6 image is much wider, much more detailed, sharper, and just as noise-free.

I was admiring you picture because as a kid I spent every Sunday looking at all those saints, etc - for a very long hour

Something I noticed. No matter what I opened your RAW file in it is not as wide as what I see on my system. Photos, LrC, PS, etc.

This is in LrC. It's not a wide.

I even dragged it directly into PureRaw 1 and downloaded your lens.

That's why you need full PhotoLab; PureRAW only gets a small subset of PhotoLab. Adobe and C1 also have poor lens corrections.

I don't know of any other raw processor that could produce the same, fully corrected wider image that PhotoLab can do.

So I paid a fairly hefty price for PureRaw but they restricted getting the full benefit out of it.

I guess so. PureRAW is a very small subset of PhotoLab at a relatively high proportion of the price. Basically, any PL feature that needs user controls is omitted.

Yeah it's too bad. I was not aware or this before you posted. Oh well.

And, of course, PR lags behind PL. You can get DP XD only in the latter. And that raises a question of whether DP XD will ever get into PR, as it's much less of a set and forget tool than DeepPRIME. It has a noise model slider, and I find that you do need to use it, to balance artefacts against detail.