RF 100-500 Image Stabilization Mode for Birds??

Nimonus wrote:

Distinctly Average wrote:

Nimonus wrote:

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Nimonus wrote:

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Nimonus wrote:

I wonder why they keep a physical switch on the lens for IS mode. It disturbs the shooting flow, costs more and reduces the weather proof.

It can be controlled by camera body, customized to a button for fast mode change.

It can be set to an Auto mode that CPU choices the mode instead of the confusing users.

People like control. In many cases rightly so. Auto modes get things wrong,,or at least they may not do what the user intended instead doing what the camera thought the user wanted. You would think IS is a simple thing to predict though.

Having a switch does not need to affect how waterproof a lens is. The weakest link in any lens is often the mount with the camera, switches are rarely ingress points. I have kit designed to work under water with switches. As late MF as they are well designed there is no issue. Even my iPhone has a switch and a couple of buttons yet it has an IP rating.

Remove the physical button does not mean less control. Mode 1, 2, 3 can be reserved and manually controlled from body.

It has no difference as Canon moved the aperture control ring from lens to camera body.

Weather proof things is obvious, the less openings it has, the stronger proof it will be. Apple removed 3.5mm phone jack is the best example. Yes, they can do it (water proof) with holes, but it isn't 100% safe and we users bear the cost of it (those rubber o-rings).

You can not get any warranty from the water damage even if your iphone has an IP rating.

I agree it doesn’t mean less control removing the physical switch, adding an auto mode does. Having a switch means you can if you so desire change modes without faffing about in various menus. Some like that ability. Personally I just stick to mode 1 so it doesn’t bother me. When using a tripod for Astro I just switch IS off.

Weatherproofing is far from obvious. It is relatively trivial to seal a switch, there are many ways of doing it. You will even find switches on kit designed for diving. If you went the removal of the IS switch, then surely all the buttons, switches and controls on the lens should also be removed. Clearly, removing the control, focus and zoom controls is not going to happen in the short term. Those latter three elements, particularly zoom, are much harder to seal than a switch, Same goes for the mount, far from trivial. When designing such kit you concentrate on those weaker elements.

And yes, you can get warranty repair on a phone due to water ingress as long as the phone was not physically damages and used within specs. On a phone any water ingress through seals implies a manufacturer defect or inherent design defect. That wasn’t the point though. Switches really are easy. If they were not then all brands would be removing them. In the future they may well do so but more due to the cost of capacitive touch or Hall effect switches being cheaper, not because failures of the tried and very well tested physical switches.

It's approved you can not persuade someone online.

You wouldn’t in person either. Let’s take two other switches as an example, AF/MF and focus limiter. I Use these quite often and in a hurry at times. Ergonomically having them on the lens means I can switch very quickly if needed. If in many cases I had been forced to go through a menu system on the camera I would have missed shots.

In the car world some brands have removed many buttons and placed them in menus on the infotainment systems. This means that just to turn on de-misting you have to navigate to the right page therefore taking your eye off the road. I’ve driven many a car like that, VWs ID range and anything from the PSA group for instance. Sometimes having a physical control is better, that is the case here IMO.

The aperture control ring, the distance window have already been removed from lens to camera.

You need to move your eyes from EVF to lens to switch AF/MF, IS mode. We can do it simply by click a button (M-Fn, or any button you like to, it's not physically fixed) if they are controlled by body.

Which one is faster?

You control your car media more from steering wheel or that rectangle panel when driving?

Nope, I can change the switches by feel.

Thing is, there is already limited buttons on many camera bodies. They are already in use and customised for my needs. Adding even more functions that need to be controlled by them is just causing more hassle.

There are lenses with IS and now switch on the lens. If you don’t want a switch feel free to buy one. They tend to be only on cheaper lenses. Not sure why you dislike them so much. They cause no problems at all.