LPE6NH 3rd party battery 2250ma vs 2950ma

Victor Engel said:

Speaking of chargers, the new charger I got whines when I charge the batteries (doesn't matter what kind of battery is being charged, Canon or 3rd party), so I use my really old charger unless I need to charge more than one at a time. I created a thread about that somewhere. Although the charger designation is the same, the design is different (you can see at a glance that the components are different).

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koenkooi said:

Victor Engel said:

RDM5546 said:

Victor Engel said:

I first bought 3rd party batteries when I entered a 48 Hour Film Project with my 5D2 (shortly after that camera was introduced). Because of how we were filming, we needed to swap out batteries and cards. The charging of the batteries was actually the limiting factor in that case, so we had two or three batteries charging while the other one was in the camera. Batteries and cards were swapped at the same time. The videos were copied first onto one computer, then onto another computer before being queued up to be reused again. For this purpose, there was no difference in performance between the 3rd party batteries and the Canon ones.
Now the only difference I see is that the camera puts up a message warning that the battery is unrecognized, etc. But they still work fine after all these years. They don't last as long as the LPE6N batteries do, but neither does the Canon battery that came with the 5D2.

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The LP6NH batteries (like the Neewer do enable better H+ operation in the R5 than the older LP6N batteries if faster FPS using mechanical shutter is desired.

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Oops - I didn't realize there were LPE6, LPE6N and LPE6NH. I just checked and all my Canon branded ones are either LP-E6 or LP-E6N (these have a green rectangle on them the others don't). My R5 came with one of these. What's different about the LP6NH? Or is that the same as LP6N? [..]

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The new 'H' variant can deliver more current, which on R cameras will unlock the 'H+' drive mode. The other advantage the 'H' variant gives you is in-body charging with a USB-PD supply.

In-body charging is pretty the only way I'm charging batteries from my R5 and M6II, so having a 3rd party support that would be nice. I haven't seen reports of any 3rd party batteries able to do that, has anyone tried that with the Neewer H batteries?

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davev8 said:

Victor Engel said:

Speaking of chargers, the new charger I got whines when I charge the batteries (doesn't matter what kind of battery is being charged, Canon or 3rd party), so I use my really old charger unless I need to charge more than one at a time. I created a thread about that somewhere. Although the charger designation is the same, the design is different (you can see at a glance that the components are different).

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sounds like coil whine if its got some copper coils in it if you put some say hot glue or silicone over them it may stop it

i use my Neewer charger all the time ..more convenient being USB ,,i have maybe used the canon charger once

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Adam2 said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

2 pcs of the original battery costs 4 % of the R5's body. Not calculating price of lenses lenses.

Is it really that big deal?

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That tired old argument again, that if you spend $$$ on a camera, the battery cost should be $$. Totally irrelevant, in my opinion. Go for reliability. Amongst the reliable brands, chose the best value. It doesn't matter what the camera cost.

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No problem with your old and tired attitude ;-) . It is the perspective I point out. Spending many thousands $ on body and lenses and then pay attention, time and efforts to safe a few $ on a batteries instead of just buying them and forgetting? Is it really worth it? Not to me.

But of course, let everybody follows his own taste.

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Maybe you ran out of money from spending the thousands $ on body and lenses. If you bought cheaper body and lenses, you'd have more money to spend on batteries. So it makes sense to scrimp on batteries. See? The argument can go the other way just as easily. What I don't understand is why people think that just because you spent a lot of money on gear that you should spend the most possible on supporting items. If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to.

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"If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to."

There are no controlled, independent tests ...

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Victor Engel said:

Adam2 said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

2 pcs of the original battery costs 4 % of the R5's body. Not calculating price of lenses lenses.

Is it really that big deal?

Click to expand...

That tired old argument again, that if you spend $$$ on a camera, the battery cost should be $$. Totally irrelevant, in my opinion. Go for reliability. Amongst the reliable brands, chose the best value. It doesn't matter what the camera cost.

Click to expand...

No problem with your old and tired attitude ;-) . It is the perspective I point out. Spending many thousands $ on body and lenses and then pay attention, time and efforts to safe a few $ on a batteries instead of just buying them and forgetting? Is it really worth it? Not to me.

But of course, let everybody follows his own taste.

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Maybe you ran out of money from spending the thousands $ on body and lenses. If you bought cheaper body and lenses, you'd have more money to spend on batteries. So it makes sense to scrimp on batteries. See? The argument can go the other way just as easily. What I don't understand is why people think that just because you spent a lot of money on gear that you should spend the most possible on supporting items. If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to.

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"If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to."

There are no controlled, independent tests ...

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https://camnostic.com/2021/02/powering-the-eos-r5/
Finally, an image showing the label of the three batteries I was curious about. So it seems my R5 came with an LPE6N battery. I thought it was supposed to come with the LPE6NH battery. Is that not the case?

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Victor Engel said:

Adam2 said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

2 pcs of the original battery costs 4 % of the R5's body. Not calculating price of lenses lenses.

Is it really that big deal?

Click to expand...

That tired old argument again, that if you spend $$$ on a camera, the battery cost should be $$. Totally irrelevant, in my opinion. Go for reliability. Amongst the reliable brands, chose the best value. It doesn't matter what the camera cost.

Click to expand...

No problem with your old and tired attitude ;-) . It is the perspective I point out. Spending many thousands $ on body and lenses and then pay attention, time and efforts to safe a few $ on a batteries instead of just buying them and forgetting? Is it really worth it? Not to me.

But of course, let everybody follows his own taste.

Click to expand...

Maybe you ran out of money from spending the thousands $ on body and lenses. If you bought cheaper body and lenses, you'd have more money to spend on batteries. So it makes sense to scrimp on batteries. See? The argument can go the other way just as easily. What I don't understand is why people think that just because you spent a lot of money on gear that you should spend the most possible on supporting items. If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to.

Click to expand...

"If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to."

There are no controlled, independent tests ...

Click to expand...

https://camnostic.com/2021/02/powering-the-eos-r5/
Finally, an image showing the label of the three batteries I was curious about. So it seems my R5 came with an LPE6N battery. I thought it was supposed to come with the LPE6NH battery. Is that not the case?

Click to expand...

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Adam2 said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

2 pcs of the original battery costs 4 % of the R5's body. Not calculating price of lenses lenses.

Is it really that big deal?

Click to expand...

That tired old argument again, that if you spend $$$ on a camera, the battery cost should be $$. Totally irrelevant, in my opinion. Go for reliability. Amongst the reliable brands, chose the best value. It doesn't matter what the camera cost.

Click to expand...

No problem with your old and tired attitude ;-) . It is the perspective I point out. Spending many thousands $ on body and lenses and then pay attention, time and efforts to safe a few $ on a batteries instead of just buying them and forgetting? Is it really worth it? Not to me.

But of course, let everybody follows his own taste.

Click to expand...

Maybe you ran out of money from spending the thousands $ on body and lenses. If you bought cheaper body and lenses, you'd have more money to spend on batteries. So it makes sense to scrimp on batteries. See? The argument can go the other way just as easily. What I don't understand is why people think that just because you spent a lot of money on gear that you should spend the most possible on supporting items. If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to.

Click to expand...

"If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to."

There are no controlled, independent tests ...

Click to expand...

https://camnostic.com/2021/02/powering-the-eos-r5/
Finally, an image showing the label of the three batteries I was curious about. So it seems my R5 came with an LPE6N battery. I thought it was supposed to come with the LPE6NH battery. Is that not the case?

Click to expand...

May be you just messed your batteries.

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Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Adam2 said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

2 pcs of the original battery costs 4 % of the R5's body. Not calculating price of lenses lenses.

Is it really that big deal?

Click to expand...

That tired old argument again, that if you spend $$$ on a camera, the battery cost should be $$. Totally irrelevant, in my opinion. Go for reliability. Amongst the reliable brands, chose the best value. It doesn't matter what the camera cost.

Click to expand...

No problem with your old and tired attitude ;-) . It is the perspective I point out. Spending many thousands $ on body and lenses and then pay attention, time and efforts to safe a few $ on a batteries instead of just buying them and forgetting? Is it really worth it? Not to me.

But of course, let everybody follows his own taste.

Click to expand...

Maybe you ran out of money from spending the thousands $ on body and lenses. If you bought cheaper body and lenses, you'd have more money to spend on batteries. So it makes sense to scrimp on batteries. See? The argument can go the other way just as easily. What I don't understand is why people think that just because you spent a lot of money on gear that you should spend the most possible on supporting items. If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to.

Click to expand...

"If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to."

There are no controlled, independent tests ...

Click to expand...

https://camnostic.com/2021/02/powering-the-eos-r5/
Finally, an image showing the label of the three batteries I was curious about. So it seems my R5 came with an LPE6N battery. I thought it was supposed to come with the LPE6NH battery. Is that not the case?

Click to expand...

May be you just messed your batteries.

Click to expand...

I just spent some time gathering all my batteries. It took some time to find the one that came with the R5. Then I remembered, I changed batteries on a field trip and put on in the center console of my car. That was the R5 battery. I took another look at the label. It does have an H on it. I blame my tired eyes at the previous time I looked at it. I was comparing it with my previous batteries, and the main difference seemed to be the short of greenish rectangular tab on the top. The bottom seemed the same, but now I look at it closely, it's not. Whew!

So I have:

1 LP-E6NH

3 LP-E6N

3 LP-E6

5 3rd party LP-E6 compatible
The last 8 were mainly used with my original 5D and 5D Mark II. The 3rd party ones were for fast swaps of batteries during a 48 hour film project. Their main use was for those 48 hours.

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Kokopelli_Rocks said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Adam2 said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

Victor Engel said:

Canon_Guy said:

2 pcs of the original battery costs 4 % of the R5's body. Not calculating price of lenses lenses.

Is it really that big deal?

Click to expand...

That tired old argument again, that if you spend $$$ on a camera, the battery cost should be $$. Totally irrelevant, in my opinion. Go for reliability. Amongst the reliable brands, chose the best value. It doesn't matter what the camera cost.

Click to expand...

No problem with your old and tired attitude ;-) . It is the perspective I point out. Spending many thousands $ on body and lenses and then pay attention, time and efforts to safe a few $ on a batteries instead of just buying them and forgetting? Is it really worth it? Not to me.

But of course, let everybody follows his own taste.

Click to expand...

Maybe you ran out of money from spending the thousands $ on body and lenses. If you bought cheaper body and lenses, you'd have more money to spend on batteries. So it makes sense to scrimp on batteries. See? The argument can go the other way just as easily. What I don't understand is why people think that just because you spent a lot of money on gear that you should spend the most possible on supporting items. If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to.

Click to expand...

"If the performance is essentially equivalent, there's really no reason to pay more than you have to."

There are no controlled, independent tests ...

Click to expand...

https://camnostic.com/2021/02/powering-the-eos-r5/
Finally, an image showing the label of the three batteries I was curious about. So it seems my R5 came with an LPE6N battery. I thought it was supposed to come with the LPE6NH battery. Is that not the case?

Click to expand...

May be you just messed your batteries.

Click to expand...

I just spent some time gathering all my batteries. It took some time to find the one that came with the R5. Then I remembered, I changed batteries on a field trip and put on in the center console of my car. That was the R5 battery. I took another look at the label. It does have an H on it. I blame my tired eyes at the previous time I looked at it. I was comparing it with my previous batteries, and the main difference seemed to be the short of greenish rectangular tab on the top. The bottom seemed the same, but now I look at it closely, it's not. Whew!

So I have:

1 LP-E6NH

3 LP-E6N

3 LP-E6

5 3rd party LP-E6 compatible
The last 8 were mainly used with my original 5D and 5D Mark II. The 3rd party ones were for fast swaps of batteries during a 48 hour film project. Their main use was for those 48 hours.

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I think many of us here have a set of Newer LP-E6NH batteries we bought on Amazon. I bought a set when I first bought my R5 because OEM batteries were so hard to find. I have since bought 2 OEM batteries. Last year I placed on order with B&H for the batteries and just waited for them to arrive, I think it took six weeks.

I really like the newer charger, great to have a USB charger. I can use it in my car while traveling. I now see the Newer batteries on at Amazon for $37 with a different but interesting charger. Looks like a great price.

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Victor Engel said:

koenkooi said:

Victor Engel said:

RDM5546 said:

Victor Engel said:

I first bought 3rd party batteries when I entered a 48 Hour Film Project with my 5D2 (shortly after that camera was introduced). Because of how we were filming, we needed to swap out batteries and cards. The charging of the batteries was actually the limiting factor in that case, so we had two or three batteries charging while the other one was in the camera. Batteries and cards were swapped at the same time. The videos were copied first onto one computer, then onto another computer before being queued up to be reused again. For this purpose, there was no difference in performance between the 3rd party batteries and the Canon ones.
Now the only difference I see is that the camera puts up a message warning that the battery is unrecognized, etc. But they still work fine after all these years. They don't last as long as the LPE6N batteries do, but neither does the Canon battery that came with the 5D2.

Click to expand...

The LP6NH batteries (like the Neewer do enable better H+ operation in the R5 than the older LP6N batteries if faster FPS using mechanical shutter is desired.

Click to expand...

Oops - I didn't realize there were LPE6, LPE6N and LPE6NH. I just checked and all my Canon branded ones are either LP-E6 or LP-E6N (these have a green rectangle on them the others don't). My R5 came with one of these. What's different about the LP6NH? Or is that the same as LP6N? [..]

Click to expand...

The new 'H' variant can deliver more current, which on R cameras will unlock the 'H+' drive mode. The other advantage the 'H' variant gives you is in-body charging with a USB-PD supply.

In-body charging is pretty the only way I'm charging batteries from my R5 and M6II, so having a 3rd party support that would be nice. I haven't seen reports of any 3rd party batteries able to do that, has anyone tried that with the Neewer H batteries?

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Can you post a picture of the contact side of that battery?

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TigTillinghast said:

Data was taken last year across a mess of LP-e6 variants. All of Canon's and the third parties then available. Graphs show the 3rd parties weren't as good as represented, and that Canon NH variants had some tricks of their sleeves that kept the R5 shooting *faster* longer. As ever, it's complicated. Here's the deep dive...

https://camnostic.com/2021/02/powering-the-eos-r5/

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TigTillinghast said:

Data was taken last year across a mess of LP-e6 variants. All of Canon's and the third parties then available. Graphs show the 3rd parties weren't as good as represented, and that Canon NH variants had some tricks of their sleeves that kept the R5 shooting *faster* longer. As ever, it's complicated. Here's the deep dive...

https://camnostic.com/2021/02/powering-the-eos-r5/

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