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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
Re: About the R10

nnowak wrote:

Sittatunga wrote:

Maxmolly7 wrote:

MAC wrote:

Maxmolly7 wrote:

My remedy for wide coverage is a Sony RX10IV which covers 24-600mm ff and, for my usage the output of the 1" senor is good enough. I shoot my photos for my private output and not for bragging on any internet website.

$1698 too steep for me

Steep? May be looked at it by itself but you get body plus "fast" lens.

8.8-220 f/2.4-4. That's equivalent to 24-600mm f/6.5-11. "fast"?

Do you know of another 25X zoom that is faster?

I don't, there is no such thing as a good, affordable 25x zoom that is fast by normal standards. Perhaps that's why Maxmolly7 used ironic inverted commas.

Please remind me, what was the price of a R7 with 24-105 and 100-400??? And where is the ff 24mm coverage?

The R7 is in a different league for price, size (with the big zoom, but not with the 16mm prime), and speed. The 16mm f/2.8 is close to FF 24mm coverage, but its 26mm f/4.5 FF equivalent is the 1" equivalent of 9.5mm f/1.7, 2½ stops faster than the Sony.

You double counted the equivalence. There is only 1.25 stops difference on the wide end. Using the 100-400mm f/5.6-8 for the long end puts you 1/3 of a stop behind the RX10IV.

I took the long way round, because a lot of people use the 35mm film format as a reference frame, but I didn't double count. The equivalence between Canon APS-C (22.3×14.8) and 1" format (13.2×8.8) is 22.3mm/13.2mm, roughly 1.68 crop factor. 16/1.69 = 9.5mm, 2.8/1.69 = 1.7. That's 2½ stops faster than f/4, but the Sony is the equivalent of one prime lens range step wider. RF-s is terribly bad for wideangle. I wouldn't have either camera myself, the Sony is bigger than and nearly twice the weight of the R10 + RF 16mm.

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