We Need An Adobe Lightroom True Competitor Locked

Batdude wrote:

koweb wrote:

Dismayed wrote:

Batdude wrote:

Who has the balls to come out with a much better RAW converter that truly competes with Adobe Lightroom Classic? We need one.

The only reason why I use LR is because of (it's workflow, that's it!) but as a Fujifilm shooter the files it produces are really poor. When I was using the Fujifilm S5 Pro no problem, but then after several years after upgrading to newer cameras you can definitely see the problem. Color tones, film simulations, sharpness and detail is simply not there and you have to spend a LOT more time messing around with this nonsense. Fujifilm is Fujifilm, not Sony, although I get the feeling that Sony RAW files are easier to manage now over Fujifilm, with Lightroom that is.

That's the first problem. The second problem is that for importing/exporting Lightroom is SUPER SLOW.

One of the comments I liked from the thread "Do You Want 40MP?" is that someone said that more megapixels is only going to get worse. And that's true. But, the hardware is not the only problem, is the software that will be the bottleneck and will slow things up drastically as MP keep increasing.

Sure, if you don't shoot over 1000 photos it should be fine, but over that forget it.

I hope someone comes out with better faster software than Adobe Lightroom with the same or even better workflow and I would be delighted to make the change.

There are at least a dozen alternatives to Lightroom. C1P and DXO Photolab Pro are two that I've used myself. Try Google.

Well, to play devil's advocate here, it is not nearly as simple as you try to make it... and, you have completely ignored the OPs comment that he uses LR because of its powerful workflows that work to process 1000s of photos.

I found and started watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI_xzChEAk8

I am super busy and it will take me quite some time to find out more about C1, even if I buy the software it will take me time to learn what it can or can't do. But, since you mentioned it, is there a limit as to how many pictures one can load? Is C1 not capable of loading 1000s of photos? After watching that video I got the impression that there is no limit? Can you or someone expand on that?

Also, one of the tools I use in LR a LOT is the Spot Removal and Copy and Paste tools and I would definitely need that and I'm not sure if C1 has that haha

Also, unlike LR, does C1 take full advantage of a graphics card? I currently have a GTX1070 and heck I would even be willing to buy something much newer if only the software actually uses it.

Also curious, does C1 support 10 bit color?

Thanks.

Can you provide the google search link to the dozens of options that have the power of LR workflows? Or, can you provide your workflows to intake, process and manage 1000s of images, when you use C1 or DXO?

Sorry if I've caused any confusion... you are correct that C1 can manage 1000s of photos and I don't believe there is a limit. And, I really prefer using C1 "sessions" instead of a catalogue (basically a session can live with a job full of photos so easy to use it on multiple computers, or from multiple storage mediums. But C1 can do a catalogue also if you prefer). That said, there are differences in how you intake photos and to me LR still has an advantage here. As you compare, note whether the limitations of C1 will impact your workflows.

One other note is the options to search your catalogue; C1 does allow for unlimited tagging and adding metadata, but LR adds a lot of that automatically (for example, I haven't found an easy way to search by what camera or lens I used, unless you add that to your images - which you can do in C1, whereas seems much more done automatically in LR). There are a lot of event and wedding photographers who use and like C1, but from your posts I would encourage you to make sure the workflows system will work for you.

As to the PP part, the interface is definitely different, but you can turn on a "classic" interface now that will ease the transition. As I and others have mentioned, C1 is far easier than LR at color processing, and I get better, more consistent results, in less time.

One last note - C1 has had a pattern of releasing new versions of their software at the end of October, so the scuttlebutt is that C1 v23 is right around the corner. You likely could get a 30 day trial now and expect to buy v23 when released.

I hope this is useful - in some ways C1 has advantages vs LR and in other ways disadvantages... it will take a bit of work to see if the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, for you.