M6 Mark 2 vs R7

m100 wrote:

RLight wrote:

Jayson A wrote:

Larry Rexley wrote:

Jayson A wrote:

The M system cameras still have a place in Canon's lineup. I don't know why they'd want to replace these monster compact systems with swappable lenses, for big mirrorless cameras with crop sensors.

It's like if they decided the SL3 should be killed off because the 90D exists. It just doesn't make sense to kill off their ultra compact mirroless system.

That being said, I'd stay away from the M6 Mark II simply because it only has fully mechanical shutter or fully electronic shutter. This means that it suffers from shutter shock because the first curtain shutter shakes the image stabilizer inside the zoom lenses during shutter speeds between 1/4 to 1/160 or so. It's a bummer it doesn't utilize the Electronic First Curtain Shutter that the M50 and all other M-cameras have. For what it's worth, I heard the 22mm and 32mm prime lenses aren't affected because they don't have image stabilization. So if you're only shooting with primes, you're probably safe.

My M50 doesn't have any issues shooting at slow shutter speeds with image stabilized lenses. I get sharp photos every time.

Both of my M6 Mark II cameras don't have any issues shooting at slow shutter speeds with image stabilized lenses using the mechanical shutter. I get sharp photos every time.

Weird. I've seen multiple threads and even some reviewers pointing out soft photo quality when shooting with low shutter speeds even on tripods with a remote activation, but if that same person shoots with the electronic shutter, it's pin sharp.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4465549

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4448177

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4523239

https://www.canonnews.com/canon-eos-m6-mark-ii-analysis-of-shutter-shock

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1648850/0

There's plenty of information in these links along with photos showing how bad it is. I would stay away from the M6 Mark II until they either add EFCS via firmware (unlikely) or until they come out with a Mark III with EFCS (unlikely). If you only shoot with un-stabilized primes, you're fine though.

Shutter shock is there on IS equipped lenses, but, AF errors are more prevalent. You need to guard from both for peak sharpness. Or to your point, just shoot something that has EFCS like the M50 II, but, you suffer more AF errors on it, in my experience. You trade 2 problems for just 1 bigger problem (AF errors).

Try using just one of these for a month.

It will help you with your auto focus problems a lot !

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1600708-REG/7artisans_photoelectric_a003b_s_35mm_f_0_95_lens_for.html/specs

Don’t tempt me… f/0.95, MF? That sounds easy…

Kidding aside, sounds interesting.