Canon M6 II with kits lens or Body only + buy a lens? Locked

dan the man p wrote:

KevinRA wrote:

dan the man p wrote:

Let's also not forget that most copies of that lens are poor. You say you have a good copy, but most are not. The average copy is passable at the wide end when stopped down but much worse at the long end, and soft everywhere wide open.

Do we have any evidence for "most" ??

I've had two copies and two of them OK. Plenty other people say the same. And no doubt many more people with issues post than those who don't have issues.

My copy is pretty good between 15-35mm at f.5.6 and perfectly fine at f/8 45mm with a tiny contrast boost and that's with pixel peeping. And fine for A4 prints / screen viewing even wide open everywhere.

I'm basing "most" on the number of people who say they've had to go through multiple copies to get a good one,

So hearsay really in terms of equating to "most"... not like say a Lensrentals test of multi 10's of copies...

where the judgment of "good" is usually based on objective comparisons with other lenses.

Yes - true - and bearing in mind this is a tiny, kit zoom lens - not a specialist portrait or macro lens. I have sent back other lenses performing (my copies) far less well like a 17-55 EF-S and 15-85 EFS - also have owned L lenses such at 16-35 f/4 for example.

Plus I own/owned the sigma 16mm, 56mm and canon 32mm so I know what good looks like.

In any case, I don't think even a "good" copy of the 15-45 is going to come close to making the most out of that 32 MP sensor.

Agree - but actually event at 100% viewing (which is pixel peeping a A2+ size print equiv) mine are actually not that far off any other top quality lens at some settings with just a little tweaking.

View at 50% size it is indistinguishable with just a little post processing at most commonly used settings.

If one is going to spend their money on the top-end body, they should really invest in other lenses to make it worth the money they spent. I don't think this is a controversial opinion...

Yes agree - and same would go for the kit lenses which sell for far more on the expensive other systems like the R's. Hence why EF-M primes, L-lenses etc etc were made