Canon M6 II with kits lens or Body only + buy a lens? Locked

nnowak wrote:

MAC wrote:

nnowak wrote:

MAC wrote:

thunder storm wrote:

nnowak wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

borris14 wrote:

I'm looking to upgrade from a Canon G7X II which was my first camera that got me into photography.

I want something to step up to and the M6 II seems to tick a lot of the boxes - I know it is three years old but still looks a good camera and something newer like the R7 is a little too big of a leap for me price wise.

My main question is whether people think the M6II kit with the 15-45 lens and EVF for around £1050 is a good deal and an acceptable lens for that package? Or whether the 15-45mm lens should be skipped, and I should go for body only and buy a lens separately? That would mean not having the EVF too though. My main uses are family and travel photography.

What do people think?

I'll go against the grain a bit. (If you get a good copy of the 15-45) it'll give you a 24-70mm equiv lens, which with the M6ii's higher MP and much better image quality (over the G7X ii), with some cropping you'll easily get out to the G7X ii's 100mm equiv zoom. So no loss there. The 15-45 is so nice and light too.

Cropping to get a 100mm equivalent view drops the M6 II all of the way down to 16.7 megapixels on a sensor area smaller than micro 4/3.

The G7X II has a much brighter f/1.8-2.8 lens than the EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3. In full frame equivalence, the G7X II is a 24-100mm f/5.0-8.0. The EF-M 15-45mm has a full frame equivalence of 24-70mm f/5.6-10. Cropping to a 100mm equivalent puts you at f/14 equivalent.

Yes, the M6 II sensor is much better than the G7X II sensor, but the slow apertures of the 15-45mm neuters much of that advantage.

DR of the M6ii will still crush the G7Xii...

yep, M6II crushes it

One stop "crushes"? The G7X II matches your RP for dynamic range at base ISO.

https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%20M6%20Mark%20II,Canon%20PowerShot%20G7%20X%20Mark%20II

hence the reason I bought and use my M6II at iso 100 and RAW with dxo PL5 for push, pull (shadow and highlight recovery) in one shot

not that the RP and G7XII aren't good cameras, one can always bracket, but 32.5 mpxl with better dynamic range matters to me for landscape shooting at base iso in a single shot vs bracketing.

The OP is not a landscape photographer. Their main use is general family snapshots.

for those that can't read, the op said "travel photography" was a genre

the small size of the m6II + m11-22 would be a top combo for travel photography that takes "scenes" and "landscapes" as well as "group shots".

Is this supposed to be a good result?

care to share your demo photos with m gear?

Oh right, you hang out here and have fuji stuff with inferior focus systems, where it took siggy to bring the prices down - whether they survive the Canon dominance on focus, remains to be seen

Cropping only exasperates the situation.

The 15-45mm shouldn't be your the only lens ror an M6ii.

yep, it is a waste if that is your only lens

lenses like the m32 f1.4 and m 11-22 take advantage of the m6II sensor and operation