Is EF-M mount worth investing for a new user

rz64 wrote:

nnowak wrote:

First, to clarify, there are two primary types of screens; "fully articulated" and "tilting". Your FZ1000 would be the "fully articulated" type with the hinge on the side of the camera. "Titling" screens are hinged at the top and/or bottom. "Flip" and "tilt" are often used interchangeably. "Fully articulated" is also referred to as a "swivel" screen. Things get even more confusing when you throw a screen like that on the Z9 into the conversation.

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Is the Canon EF-M still going strong? No. In 2018, Canon had 4 different bodies for sale. In 2020 it was three bodies. In 2022, the M6 II was discontinued and the lineup is down to just 2 bodies. The last new lens was launched in 2018. If the system has everything you would want right now, it could be a good value. However, don't expect any new bodies with significantly upgraded features, or any new lenses. By all appearances, Canon is slowly phasing out the EF-M system and is in the process of replacing it with the new crop RF-S system.

If you face the facts, obviously there is only small "movement" in the M-system.

However, how can the new crop RF-S system replace the EOS-M?

• Although the number of M-lenses is small, it is large compared to the number of RF-S-lenses.

Not once you consider all of the suitable full frame RF lenses

• What do you think, how long will it take to have a comparable number of comparable lenses?

EF-M has been around for 10 years and Canon only created 8 lenses for the system. RF-S has not even been around for 2 months at this point. If you count all of the full frame RF glass that makes sense on crop, there are already just as many RF lenses as EF-M lenses. Canon probably won't make 1:1 copies of every EF-M lens, but RF crop will end up with plenty of options.

• There is (almost) no comparable lens concerning size, weight and costs.

There are more than you think. The first two RF-S lenses are the same size, weight, and price as the comparable EF-M lenses. The RF 16mm f/2.8, 24mm f/1.8 IS, 35mm f/1.8 IS, and 50mm f/1.8 are all small, light, and affordable. Even the RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8.0 IS, RF 600mm f/11 and RF 800mm f/11 are relatively small and affordable for what they are. Given how many people in this forum are adapting 100-400mm DSLR lenses to the M cameras, the RF 100-400mm is going to be extremely popular with R7 and R10 buyers.  The lack of a wide angle zoom is the most glaring absence, but Canon will almost certainly rectify that soon as it was an early priority in their other mounts. Most of the options mentioned above do not have a Canon equivalent in EF-M mount, and instead require a third party lens and/or adapted DSLR lens.

• If size matters, no combination of R-body with RF-S-lens will ever equal an M-camera with an M-lens.

On size, no. On weight, yes. The R10 with either kit lens is within 28 grams of the M6 II with either kit lens.

• The RF-S is the system to lure customers to FF, not to APS-C. So they can't make it too strong, otherwise the expensive R-lenses lose attractiveness.

People have been saying the exact same thing about the M system. The difference is Canon can sell an "L" series RF lens to a R10/R7 buyer, but not to an M system owner.

Proclaiming the end of the M has little influence on the future of this great system.
Instead of permanently emphasizing the issues, you should better use your M-camera for shooting, you can get fantastic results

Every modern camera from every manufacturer is capable of fantastic results.