Are pros using MAC or PC continued...

Mac's, especially if matching colors is important to you.
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out> number pc users...in any forum...> > Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac> or pc on this very forum...> > Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...> > Who is using mac compared to pc...> > Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of> you subject line...> > Not scientific but telling...> > RD
 
OSX is based on BSD. It's supposed to be a more secure than Linux (though I'm not sure how well this compares to Windows. I've heard it's even worse).

Ps. OSX 10.3.1 is out :)
Yes of course the Mac has security patches -- but I've never heard
of a mac being compromised without them.

A naked Windows XP installation on the internet will be compromised
in minutes to hours. So you d* well better keep it patched.

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The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
 
Wrong, windows in inherently insecure. Which is why "Longhorn" is
being completely rewritten from the ground up.
It's absolutely true that Windows has some design considerations that place other priorities above security. However, most of these could probably be changed fairly quickly. It certainly wouldn't be necessary to rewrite more than a very small fraction of the total code base.

When MS claims to be starting from scratch on Longhorn, you can bet that is largely hype. I'm sure that very large chunks of existing code will be moved over, although most likely after being given a thorough review.
See http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33226.html for more
details on why Windows is more insecure by design than Unix systems.
This article is one I've seen before, and it makes some good points. However, once again, they are failing to make a distinction between the behaviour of the operating system and the behaviour of an individual application running on that operating system.

EMAIL-spread viruses are by far the most common on Windows, but this is a method of distribution that exploits security flaws in AN APPLICATION PROGRAM. The same exact problem CAN exist on any computer system, and in fact the same problem has been seen on the Macintosh. The FREQUENCY of such occurrances is the only real difference between systems.

I especially like where the article makes the point that, because of the file permissions granted to the non-administrator user on Linux, a virus infection could only affect the files belonging to that user, and not the system files. Well, that's just great. All of your document files can get killed, but at least the system still boots. Well, I suppose that's better than nothing, but it's not something I'd be bragging about.

Mike
 
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/11/11/alspach/

Some of the commentary in the forum entries below the article are alos interesting.
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
 
Mike Fulton wrote:
[RE: article http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33226.html]
This article is one I've seen before, and it makes some good
points. However, once again, they are failing to make a
distinction between the behaviour of the operating system and the
behaviour of an individual application running on that operating
system.
While it's true that an application could make things safer, it's also true that Microsoft has made some questionable system architecture decisions.

For example, while COM/OLE/ActiveX can create some nice user experiences, their deployment at the OS level was sort of like an engraved invitation to hack systems. This insecurity was designed in. It has taken a while to design it out.

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Most of you have seen this video by now... but if you haven't, it could be me trying to help my girlfriend with her Mac...

(big video... not recommended for modem users)

http://www.nata2.info/humor/movies/mac.wmv
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
 
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
Macs for photography and one very good reason is the Mac only PhotoRetouchPro.
Three in the studio and one iBook on location.
PC for video editing when it works.

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I personally use a PC, and I guess over 95% of people IN EUROPE use PCs at a home/office level.

If you consider graphic pros, the PC falls down at 70%... maybe even under but not too much.

No doubt in US Mac continues to be a good alternative, but here in Europe Apple Computers are just little drops in an ocean of PCs. Actually don't know exactly about northern Europe (I mean Sweden and so on).

This is far to say that PCs are better than Macs. Or Viceversa. Just numbers.
 
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
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Actually, I have PC's running as servers (and firewalls themselves) and PC's hiding behind other PC's (firewalls) as desktops. Why would you want host a server on your desktop nowadays? I stopped doing that as early as 1995 or so (or roughly two years into my experience with internet, still on a T1 line), at a time when Mac stability was quite apocryphal, even though quite a few Mac fans would swear by it even back then; chalk that up as ignorance, hey, human beings are not exactly known for imaginations: even $3 a gallon milk and honey was once thought as paradise.

As for Outlook Express, that's quite a different matter. There are plenty alternatives to Outlook and Outlook Express.
Well Nanook,

With your computer system hiding behind the firewall you cannot
host any kind of server. So if that is your idea of a quality
computing environment, go for it.

BTW it doesn't matter if you run software as a superuser (although
that is, of course a UNIX concept) because Windows runs many of the
vulnerable services with administrator-level priviliges.

You are also very fortunate that you haven't received any of the
email virus scripts that only require being read (not executed) by
the incredibly insecure email clients created by Microsoft with
hooks into the operating system.
 
It seams that the favorite flavor for viruses is MS...
Because there's an order of magnitude more potential targets when you target the Windows platform ;)

The one thing that has always worries me when Mac users espouse this point is that if anyone ever did write a nasty Mac virus, many users would be totally unprepared for it. When it comes to security, one of the worst things that you can do is become complacent about it.

PS I've used both platforms since their inception, and none of my machines have ever been infected by any viri - it's really not that hard to avoid as long as you don't do anything dumb ;)
 
Don't equate easy with lack of desire to learn! a lot of people couldn't touch either and know what they're doing could they?
Yes, very easy to keep your computer secure using Windows, right?
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Because thier really isn't too much software available or users-using Macs in the first place.

And it's all Apples fault. If they opened up the hardware/software PROPERLY to OEM market, PC's could-possibly become not-so-popular.

Perhaps graphics/video companies can hold thier own with Macs, but business in general can't.

I've been involved over the years in a few companies switching from Mac to PC's, I doubt any will go back unless Apple makes some drastic changes. (Selling Ipods won't help).
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
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It would open up the market for available software on the Mac.
Ever compare software sections in a computer store, Mac-PC?
Rob, Some software that's not available to the PC doesn't suck.

... and Microsoft may be switching to G5 : )
Wishful thinking! That would certainly "upgrade" the mac, though :)

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tell your son to quit downloading from Kazzaa.
Kind Regards
-Billie
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
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