A warning about the peculiar ergonomics of the X-H2S

Truman Prevatt wrote:

forest dream wrote:

Truman Prevatt wrote:

The traditional Fuji dials and knobs really don't allow full customization. They will lie to you when you look at them if the manual setting can be overridden by S/W presets. The Q menu - is primarily only for Jpeg.

Agree. Major issue of Fuji retro dial is didn't show actual figure if override by software preset/command dials.

These kind of hard coded dials (regardless retro / PASM) easy solve via E-Ink dials.

E-Ink dials :

• Consumer can customize own dials mark/function.
• When auto mode, E-Ink display actual figure instead of "A".

Best benefits from E-Ink dials : allow consumer configure own dials. Different photographer had vary need.

E-ink would help solve some issues. It could eliminate the confliction between S/W changeable parameters dials.

Agree. Main benefits of E-Ink dials.

There is clearly communication between the dials to the S/W as the parameters are changed on most Fuji cameras by changing a dial.

Agree. Main benefits of E-Ink dials.

There is just no communications in the other direction.

• When consumer rotate dial (regardless E-Ink / legacy retro), consumer tell camera follow his manual operation.
• For example, consumer can assign E-Ink dials as Min.SS, rotate E-Ink dials point to Min SS 500 mark. In same time, dials's E-Ink screen display actual SS 750.
• When consumer rotate Min.SS to 1000, camera forced to actual SS 1000 under same exposure.

However, unless the E-ink dials were continuously powered - one could not determine the state of the parameter with the camera off.

Current X-H2s monochrome top-plate LCD screen still display although camera power off (with attach battery). Monochrome LCD (without turn in blacklight) drain little battery power only.

E-Ink screen still display last screen without any power.

If they were always powered - a draw of power for no reason. Plus one for fixed dials. Secondly and the hard dials with indented and painted numbers are much easier to read - especially at varying angles.

E-Ink screen easy read in vary angle, same screen used in Amazon Paperwhite E-book reader.

The contrast is higher. While that might not seem like an issue to you young whipper snappers it can be an issue with we old geezers who have to use enlarged bolded fonts on our smart phones.

If the E-ink dials only showed the current setting - that would solve the issue with visibility. However, it wouldn't show all the options.

Similar to E-Ink watch, mark point to point to user setting (e.g. Min SS 500), behind E-Ink screen show actual SS 750.

Fossil Hybrid HR - E-Ink screen to display other info

Min SS 500 mark also render by E-Ink, but point via analog hand (when rotate dials), can switch to ISO dials when needed.

Personally the more I use my Q2 the more I think Leica merged the PSAM approach with the dial approach in an effective and usable way.

Q2 still need turn on rear LCD to display current info.

I don't know how that would scale up to much more functionality with a camera like the XH2S. Of course such a UI would be a departure to the Fuji UI today and I just can't imagine the whining, whaling and gnashing of teeth with such a change.

My view is on a camera like the XPro and XE - the current marked electromechanical dials is the best UI for what the cameras do well. For something like the XH the PSAM dial with fully programmable configurations is the best way to go. For the XT - I won't buy one so don't really care. However, if one tries to mix the two - then conflictions will be an issue.

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