Will the Ricoh GR line one day be full frame again ?

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Gourownway Forum Member • Posts: 75
Re: Will the Ricoh GR line one day be full frame again ?

Promeneur wrote:

Gourownway wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Gourownway wrote:

phouphou wrote:

The GR originated in the film era (GR1), so its originally a 35mm format (FF) P&S with 28mmf2.8 retractable lens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricoh_GR_film_cameras

Obviously the only reason why the "GR digital" from 2005 had 1/1.8" sensor and the "GR" from 2013 had APSC sensor is that technology then wasnt advanced enough or cheap enough to make the GR a viable fullframe sensor compact from the beginning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricoh_GR_digital_cameras

Since Sony introduced FF mirorrless in 2014 with the a7 line, FF has since become much more affordable with entry level FF bodies today starting below $1000.

To me it seems just natural to step from 1/1.8" sensor in 2005 to APSC sensor in 2013 back to 35mm FF sensor in 202x.

But will we really see it?

With the declining camera market right now i dont think its gonna happen any time soon. But maybe in a few years when full connectivity with phones is standard and has made small phone+small P&S attractive again...

What do you think?

I hope not, it’s already (imho) a better camera than. Any FF analogue camera , and why follow and empty concept called fashion ?

Not sure I understand what you are saying? Do you not like analog cameras?

yes , I do like analog cameras.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply, Gourownway. I am just getting back into 35mm film for the first time in about 25 years. It has taken me nearly six weeks to almost finish shooting a roll of Ilford HP5 B&W. My mindset is so different, like it was back in the day. I have to get used to this again. It's not just the financial side, but how I approached photography back then.

If Ricoh manufactured a new analog camera I would buy one in a heart beat:

Me too!

however you will know that analog and digital are vastly different . The analog gives you a look that is characteristic of film. IMHO digital film simulations rarely faithfully capture that look.

I have not been able to duplicate film simulations to my satisfaction either, but I like playing with the settings.

digital on the other hand will out perform analog because you are not working within the limits of a given film and modern APSC sensors and to some extent the 1/1.7 sensor in the GRD iii out perform most films.

I remember carefully rewinding a partially exposed roll of film not to have the lead go back all the way in. Then I would write down the last frame shot and change to another film. When I put the partially shot roll back into the camera I advanced the film one frame beyond the last shot I had taken. The old way of changing the filma ASA (ISO) and everything else.

a FF GR is unnecessary , it likely would have a bigger heavier lens, perhaps body too , and would make images that are indistinguishable to the eye from those captured on APSC.

For me, I don't think I need a pocketable full frame digital camera either with all the advancement in technology today. I can see why some would like one and buy the Sigma fp L, though. With a small 28 or 50mm prime on the body it appears that it would fit in the pocket of a jacket I would wear in cooler weather.

I'm adding a scan of a slide I took in the 70's in Nepal while backpacking. Technically it is what it is. It was scanned 24 bit depth, 1200 dpi at 4.23 MB on an "Epson Perfection 4870 Photo" scanner purchased in 2004. I just set it up again to practice with some film negatives I found. This slide was scanned many years ago, not recently.

Nepal in the 70's.

https://www.metmuseum.org/about-the-met/collection-areas/photographs

Love that photograph, it is charming, and the colours are wonderfully rich. Thank you for sharing.

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